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01 Oct 2017, 3:28 pm

Hey there, there is one recently locked thread which reminds me of why I left Wrong Planet in anger a few years ago.

I got weary of a cadre of aggressive atheists consistently disrupting conversations Christians were having. Remember that one among those I considered the worst of the lot was from Finland. Don't remember any screen names but they seemed to be gone when I rejoined recently.

Part of my complaint was the hypocrisy of the autism community seeking acceptance from general society while denigrating and generally ridiculing segments of itself.

Decided I didn't want to be part of an organization, a community, engaging in that farce.
Wonder if I'll eventually decide that again?

If you people want to be accepted by general society get your own act together first - expecting to get what you refuse to give is insane, or at a minimum is the height of arrogance.
But, hey, that aspies would be arrogant is no surprise to anyone, is it.

Wonder how long it will take this thread to get locked?
Actually, I'm not sure that I don't Want it to.

And you can be for damn sure I'm now going to start telling Christian aspies I know, don't go to Wrong Planet, you are not welcome there, you WILL be abused.


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01 Oct 2017, 3:33 pm

All this talk of "aggressive atheism" is just right-wing political correctness.


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01 Oct 2017, 4:12 pm

Wp is anti religion, no more proof needed other the. The only place allowed to talk about religious believes is political section. And you’re never get a unattached dicussion about your religion there unless your Muslim. I’m Christian, but I learned long ago to talk about being one or about my beliefs will just get me attacked and such attacks are ok under wp policy. However can’t attack atheists or Muslims in the same way Christians and Jews are attacked. Islam being terrible now and Christian nbeing attacked for what the religion did thousand years ago.

Many here believe Christians are pure evil and the source of all that’s bad in the world through its history even predating Christianity

So if ones religion is a big part of them and they want to be open about it then wp isn’t the place for them. I just don’t talk about my beliefs here cause I’ll be attacked. They even get attacked in haven section. Someone post asking for prays and so,done responds with , gods fake and religion is evil why would you pray.



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01 Oct 2017, 6:47 pm

Two More Things:

1. There are plenty of websites that you can visit if you want a Christian safe space. These sites are not hard to find.
2. This site contains every kind of extremism. We have aggressive atheists, but we also have aggressive capitalists, aggressive creationists and aggressive neo-confederates. Wrong Planet is allegedly supposed to be a "friendly" website. In practice, it is an edgy free-for-all of harsh language most of the time ... and I wouldn't have it any other way. I rely on other sites for emotional support now. This site is NOT a good emotional support site, but I've stopped caring.

This is a site where anyone can post any opinion as long as it isn't overtly discriminatory. Sites like this are typically created with good intent, but they inevitably devolve into edgy free-for-alls.

There are plenty of sites out there where atheists are permanently banned. Why not just go there?

Yes, those sites are hugboxes. People who use hugboxes are looked down upon by society. Of course, everyone on the internet is anonymous. Nobody has to know what other sites you use.

When I can't take the heat of this site, I often post in socialist circle-jerk sites. I would never admit that in public, but I am an anonymous nobody on the internet, so I can tell everybody everything.


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01 Oct 2017, 7:20 pm

I've heard it brought up often that site admin, literally at the top, is agnostic atheist to the point of saying 'Well - so what? They're right'. There are a few moderators I have noticed on here who do a good job of showing members the door who get really underhanded, thoughtless, and noisy in their criticism of religion (one in particular reminded me of eight year old on stimulants and was probably posting a couple threads per day where low-hanging fruit would have been too much an understatement).

I don't know if it's my place to suggest it but to those opened it might be easier to talk about these things in terms of philosophy, sociology, or the concept of the world being built on Piagetian games - that if you're not playing one you're playing another. To that extent there was a significant aim toward integrity with Christianity and Neoplatonism, and for a while early in its existence I hear Christianity was taught with the assistance of Plato and Pythagoras, St. Thomas Aquinas took it more toward Aristotle.

Other than that though, if it's simple belief, it probably would be very difficult to discuss that here because we're mixing topics that in some cases or practices aren't supposed to bow to facts (particularly those who take revelation on face value) and because of that we don't have a sensible place for Anglican to talk to Anglican about faith life, Catholic with Catholic, or Methodist with Methodist.

I don't know what would happen if enough people dug up my old conversations in the Site Suggestions thread and reinforced the desire to split the P, P, and R if it would get comment from the top or still get ignored but as it stands this folder looks like it's set to stay the way it is indefinitely and, other than saying something to admin, all you can do is expatriate and either find another site or make one.


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01 Oct 2017, 7:40 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
1. There are plenty of websites that you can visit if you want a Christian safe space. These sites are not hard to find.


the problem isn't that this site is or isn't a "christian safe space", its that people should be able to have a thread about their beliefs WITHOUT opponents disrespectfully barging in, disrupting and basically telling everyone there that they're wrong, they're "evil" and their beliefs are outdated, or whatever.

if people want to be "redpilled" :roll: , let them ask for it.

and i can't believe i've had to emphasize that the haven isn't a debate forum.



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01 Oct 2017, 7:52 pm

Thanks for deleting my post. If you're not part of the solution.....



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01 Oct 2017, 8:20 pm

Chichikov wrote:
Anyway, these opinions that people get from their cereal box in the morning are left-wing, liberal, anti-conservative, anti-religion...whatever the mainstream media is promoting that day. They tend to mirror the opinions of celebrities, and when your opinions mirror the likes of Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus and Jennifer Lawrence, surely you must know there are ill informed?


Oh ... look. A conservative is using the "liberal celebrity obsession" card again!

I don't care about Taylor Swift or Miley Cyrus. I don't even know who or what Jennifer Lawrence is. I, first and foremost, am a nature nerd. I always have been and I always will be. For me, socialism and atheism are just side projects. I spend most of my life reading about dinosaurs and tropical fish.

I get my political views from NOAM FREAKING CHOMSKY. He's a genius who has devoted his entire life to politics. He, unlike most political activists, never sells out. That's why he isn't as famous as Michael Moore.

I will admit that some mainstream liberals get their political views from celebrities ... but conservatives do that too. What about all the conservatives who parrot the views of Chuck Norris?

The conservatives who don't get their views from celebrities usually get their views from paid corporate shills. Becoming a right-wing corporate shill is a very easy way to make money. All you have to sacrifice is your soul.

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I find the same people posting the same nonsense incredibly tedious myself and I don't care about politics or religion, so I can understand how frustrating it must be for the people who do.


... and yet you are here. :wink:


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01 Oct 2017, 8:43 pm

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You didn't respond to this before, you're only responding since my post calling you a parasite was deleted. So why are you responding now? Because you're a troll. Don't worry though, this reply will probably get deleted too.


I'm not a parasite dude. Parasites usually have degenerate anatomy. For example, look at this tongue worm.
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Do I have degenerate anatomy? No. Just ask the ladies. :D


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01 Oct 2017, 8:45 pm

Oh look, another thread you turn up on dragged off topic and ruined. It's just a shame the mods entertain you rather than ban you.



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01 Oct 2017, 9:28 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I get my political views from NOAM FREAKING CHOMSKY. He's a genius who has devoted his entire life to politics.

Do you? I've been listening to Noam off and on for quite a while and I don't see it.


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01 Oct 2017, 9:40 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I get my political views from NOAM FREAKING CHOMSKY. He's a genius who has devoted his entire life to politics.

Do you? I've been listening to Noam off and on for quite a while and I don't see it.


Chomsky is the reason why I don't trust mainstream "liberals" like Clinton (both of them) and Obama.

Of course, Chomsky isn't the only person that I like. I also draw some inspiration from Bernie Sanders and Karl Marx. I also use my own judgment frequently.


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01 Oct 2017, 9:51 pm

There are three Abrahamic religions.

If you trash one and its followers, you get applauded.

If you say anything against the other two, it's considered a hate crime.

There's something very inherently wrong with that.


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01 Oct 2017, 10:12 pm

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There are three Abrahamic religions.

If you trash one and its followers, you get applauded.


Do you mean Islam?

That's how the world works outside of the internet.

People insult Christianity online because we can't do so anywhere else.


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01 Oct 2017, 10:30 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
There are three Abrahamic religions.

If you trash one and its followers, you get applauded.


Do you mean Islam?

That's how the world works outside of the internet.

People insult Christianity online because we can't do so anywhere else.


If one says anything remotely resembling an antisemitic or Islamaphobic remark at school or most worksites, they will likey get suspended and or expelled/ fired. So don't try to convince me it doesn't apply to real life.


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