ret*d, ret*d etc..
It implies that a person is forever "behind," and can never improve.
I have always used it situationally. I understand to a degree why other people are bothered by it. I'm not though. I write well but it takes me several minutes to write something this brief, even though I have software that helps me out. That's how ret*d I am. It can take me an hour to get dressed if I'm not helped etc. So what is the word for that anyways if not ret*d?
I have similar issues with writing posts. What software do you use? Sometimes it takes me days to respond to posts or PMs because I can't collect my thoughts. I also have problems with adaptive skills. Below age equivalence of 5 years for most things. ret*d as it used to be was a combination of full-scale IQ below 70 and impaired adaptive skills in at least 3 areas. Now, intellectual disability still has that combo with a heavier emphasis on adaptive skill impairment than IQ. I am severely impaired in adaptive skills.
Please don't ban words just because someone uses them in an offensive way. I reckon everyone who thinks that banning those words solves any issue is pretty much mistaken.
Because what does that solve? You ban "ret*d", then people will say "challenged" or "delayed" and start using it in an offensive manner, then you ban "challenged"/"delayed", and you start using new words, and so on. The core issue will remain unfixed and people who want to insult other people will always find a way to do so.
Also, banning words is very dangerous for maintaining freedom of speech.
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Exactly
The correct euphemism changes with time
Words labelled as insults, slang. Change with time too.
"ret*d" has an official, proper, correct definition.
Yesterday, the current counselor told me to sign a form she filled out, to apply for one extra year of counseling.
One of the boxes she checked was "motor retardation".
"Retardation" is an obsolete term, but by banning the word, that gives the word more power......
Not once did the counselor use any form of the word "ret*d", in my presence.
Instead she said "neurodiverse"
But seriously I do not want to be a special snowflake
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I like these sorts of things to be "out in the open," and dealt with properly.
We're going to be beset with insults throughout our lives; we have to learn how to deal with them.
But.....you do have a right not to be inundated with this sort of crap.
^This. I think that turning this forum into another censored 'safe space' with thought-crimes etc will be much worse than the occasional R-word being uttered.
On a separate but related point; if we're saying that the word 'ret*d' is especially offensive to autistic people then aren’t we in-effect saying that autistic people are ret*ds? In my opinion that's just as bad as saying the word, only that it's silently in the background. I prefer the tactic of reverse-appropriation: If an NT calls you a ret*d then call them a ret*d back!
The previous licensed clinical social worker had the nerve to keep telling me "I know you are smart", in a condescending tone. She was 35 and I was 33. She had a Master's and I only had a Bachelor.
Seriously I would have preferred for her to have told me I was "ret*d" or stupid.
She told me that, like she expected me to blindly believe anything that can out of her trap.
Then she told me that someone that was "stupid" could not make good use of community college
Ok that is not how the dictionary defines "stupid"
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You let them say it. You just dismantle them personally (As in you do it yourself).
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I listened to a couple of comedians doing a podcast, and they said it several time. It just didn't sting me in the least.
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Being "ret*d" is not a choice or a moral flaw
Everyone can say whatever they want
But they do not have the legal authority to administer IQ tests. Only certain psychologists are allowed to do that.
The word "ret*d" used to be official medical terminology.
Right now the word "ret*d" is outdated.
But a word is just a word. A word has no inherent morality. A word is just a collection of letters.
"Developmentally disabled" and "neurodiverse" are the latest greatest euphemisms.
Later on, euphemisms and insults change.
The other thing is that euphemisms are sometimes too vague and have a different definition than the allegedly bad word.
For example, "neurodiverse" has a positive connotation. (Unity and diversity club). But one person cannot be "diverse". It is an entire group that can be "diverse". Or not
Besides, what is so great about the word "neurodiverse"?. What is the dictionary definition?
Would Einstein get labelled "neurodiverse"?
And "neurotypical" has the dictionary definition, of not autistic. But someone brain damaged that is not autistic is still "neurotypical"
Euphemisms are sometimes necessary and beneficial
But euphemisms do not solve the problem of how precious lil "people" are so judgmental of different people.
Society puts a lot of value on academic intelligence. At least united States. (Japan, China and India, I would imagine, puts more emphasis on academic intelligence than the United States)
Academic intelligence is not a choice or a moral virtue
Academic intelligence is just a job skill
Just like physical strength is a job skill
If someone lifts ten pounds and I only lift one pound, someone is athletically superior to me. All things being equal. But that does not mean i am morally inferior
The way some precious lil "people" call someone "stupid" (or "smart"), sounds like the speaker has a moral right to judge intelligence. And intelligence is important. And intelligence is a moral virtue. And smart is good. And "ret*d" is bad. And it sounds like the speaker is smarter than the recipient
I like these sorts of things to be "out in the open," and dealt with properly.
We're going to be beset with insults throughout our lives; we have to learn how to deal with them.
But.....you do have a right not to be inundated with this sort of crap.
Yeah I feel the same way everything would be a hell of a lot easier if we all just said what we were thinking and how we feel.
a positive judgment is just as judgmental as a negative judgment.
but plenty of minors (and adults) do not know what a judgment even is.
a community college instructor told the security guard "you're a genius!", when he unlocked the door.
it's like, wtf?
that statement implied that she had the moral right to assess his intelligence.
"you're a genius" sounds like a compliment. but if the requirement to be a "genius" is so low, then what's so great about being a "genius"?
seriously
my precious lil "parents" used to compare me unfavorably to precious lil "people's " academic prodigy chinese daughters.
and ask why was i not like that.........
they did not tell me i was "stupid" or "ret*d".
but they made me memorize 10 to 20 SAT words in the school year, per week, third to seventh grade. and 10 to 20 SAT words per day, in the summer, third to seventh grade.
so........
wtf?
it's like a smack across the face.
besides, you could twiddle your thumbs and say that everyone is good at some things and bad at others.
theory of multiple intelligences
but what difference does it make?
you have to make do with the intelligence you have. it does not benefit anyone to dwell on how much or how little intelligence they have.
the other thing is, that some precious lil "people" had the nerve to tell me "you're smart", as if they wanted me to believe it. and say "thank you". totally condescending
but everyone is "smart".
Oddly, I find the use of "precious lil people" more offensive than "ret*d" because it is itself a blanket judgement.
Who exactly are "precious lil people"?
Neurotypicals?
Everyone else in the world?
And why are "people" and "parents" in inverted commas?
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The reason why I put precious lil "people" , was because oftentimes, one person refers to himself or herself as "we", "people", or "most people".
And when he or she does that, it makes it sound like he overpowers me because he outnumbers me
And it makes it sound like I am not a person
For example "you make people uncomfortable with the way you dress!"
"People" literally means two or more, but it sounds like everyone in the world except me. And it sounds like I not a person. It sounds like I have no right to do anything that makes two or more people "uncomfortable"
But the solar system contains more convicted rapists, than Nobel Prize winners in Physics. It doesn't mean that the activity with more participants is morally superior.
Besides, maybe, at least two separate parties have found it "uncomfortable" when I continue living. Then what? Does that give them a moral right to exterminate me?
Usually when someone says "most people", the speaker is using the authority of "most people" to veto my actions, on the basis that my actions are abnormal, in a bad way
The reason why I put precious lil "people" , was because oftentimes, one person refers to himself or herself as "we", "people", or "most people".
And when he or she does that, it makes it sound like he overpowers me because he outnumbers me
And it makes it sound like I am not a person
For example "you make people uncomfortable with the way you dress!"
"People" literally means two or more, but it sounds like everyone in the world except me. And it sounds like I not a person. It sounds like I have no right to do anything that makes two or more people "uncomfortable"
But the solar system contains more convicted rapists, than Nobel Prize winners in Physics. It doesn't mean that the activity with more participants is morally superior.
Besides, maybe, at least two separate parties have found it "uncomfortable" when I continue living. Then what? Does that give them a moral right to exterminate me?
Usually when someone says "most people", the speaker is using the authority of "most people" to veto my actions, on the basis that my actions are abnormal, in a bad way
When you say precious lil people, I automatically include myself in that because I'm a person.
It makes me feel really uncomfortable, like you're suggesting everyone does things to make you feel less of a person, myself included.
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Agree. But I’m ready to take back the word ret*d after masking & repressing my asd for 40 years. I embrace it. That’s just my journey though.