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08 Nov 2017, 6:34 pm

This is from an email from Larry Blim(a parent advocate) re a post by him on the NLD list-yahoo groups back in 2003.

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Generally the full scale score on the WISC III is the person's IQ score.
However, when there is a gap of 10 points or more betw. the VIQ and
PIQ, the full scale score is not considered to be accurate. The bigger
the gap, the less reliable is the full scale score. The "true" IQ in
such cases is considered to be closer to the higher of the VIQ or PIQ
scores.

Therefore in a school situation, as regarding e.g. entrance into a
gifted program where there is a minimum IQ score required for admission,
and there is a large gap betw. VIQ and PIQ, it would be inappropriate to
use the full scale score when a large gap exists, but it would be
appropriate to use the higher of the two as the "true" IQ.



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08 Nov 2017, 8:39 pm

The kids who write in "kids crater" are probably "advanced" for their age. They have Asperger's, primarily. Sometimes, Asperger's is manifested by enhanced writing ability.

I was a very good reader and speller when I was very young--12th grade reading level in 6th grade----but my writing was probably "average," and it was sloppy.

The Marine Guy's posts are maybe better than mine sometimes LOL-----and I have a consistent IQ in the 110's.



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09 Nov 2017, 6:02 am

I wasn't able to really read until I turned 12. During the time I was 13, I read dozens of books and made thousands of posts on various forums.



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09 Nov 2017, 9:47 am

You had a veritable "explosion" at 13.

This can happen to autistic people when they're in the right environment.

I'm glad you had this "emergence."

You should read Piaget sometime, Ezra. He had interesting theories about cognition.



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09 Nov 2017, 10:02 am

Well on the Stanford–Binet scale my IQ is 128 sooo not me though I do tend to act rather dumb at times sooo maybe?


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11 Nov 2017, 2:44 pm

First of all, OP is far too eloquent to have a below average intelligence.

Second, IQ tests are generally bunk. A standardised test can’t measure intellect, especially if only a small portion of the world even literate enough to understand one. IQ tests also don’t measure social and emotional intelligence and those are pretty important as well.

Lastly, I think IQ tests only really matter when it comes to diagnosing an intellectual disability but that doesn’t make someone “unintelligent”. They have an intellect but they sometimes struggle with it. It’s just like how I struggle with empathy but I still have the capacity for empathy. Does that make sense?



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20 Nov 2017, 9:08 am

I tested average. But aspies have special talents that they excel at, and mine to the point with electronics that I was jokingly called a "savant", but still average making errors all the time.



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20 Nov 2017, 11:05 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
The kids who write in "kids crater" are probably "advanced" for their age. They have Asperger's, primarily. Sometimes, Asperger's is manifested by enhanced writing ability.

I was a very good reader and speller when I was very young--12th grade reading level in 6th grade----but my writing was probably "average," and it was sloppy.

The Marine Guy's posts are maybe better than mine sometimes LOL-----and I have a consistent IQ in the 110's.


LOL I was trolling AOL chatrooms when I was 12. I never posted on message boards then. These days kids are young as preteens. You have to be at least 13 to use social media but I know kids younger than that use Facebook and stuff. I doubt they're all autistic.



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First of all, OP is far too eloquent to have a below average intelligence.


Well I'll take that as a compliment. It's when people are talking to me having conversations is when they start to think I am slow because of how many times they have to explain things or me not grasping things. Even one of my online friends think I am dumb because of me not always getting things and how many times he has had to explain something. Maybe it's not my social skills after all if someone stops talking to me, maybe they just thought I was dumb and lot of people don't like dumb people.

Plus I was never advanced like other aspies were. I was always academically behind even though I picked up with reading fast and writing by my preteens. But my work needed to be modified, I was not good in abstract things and I thought that was Asperger's because I was told aspies are very concrete but then I find online it's the opposite. I actually found it's slow learners who are very concrete and they excel at things when it's very concrete. So they can sound very intelligent too an know lot of stuff. Kids post intellectual things here, I would not have been able to do that. They all sound like adults while I sounded like an 11 year old online when I was 17 because of the feedback I have been given back then. No way would I have been that intellect at age 12 or 13 though I could still post online in today times. Back then I didn't know how to do it because I was internet illiterate lol. I only knew how to use chatrooms for AOL but not for Internet Exploror or any other browser. I didn't even know how to actually look things up online for something specific until my mid twenties. It would not occur top me then s a young adult to just look something up if I am curious about something so I remember a member here was a jerk to me about it when I asked him how does he know someone who sang the star bangled banner song is autistic and he took it as me attacking him and saying if I was truly curious I would have done my research and did the homework for me. I have hated him since because he never apologized. This was back in 2007. That member isn't around anymore and I still have him on my bad list.


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20 Nov 2017, 9:09 pm

Further to my previous post, I think the fact I failed university is because no one else I knew in my family had attended before and had no tips for how I would cope or if I had the chance to prevail (i say that because it was not study oriented at all and purely how well you got on with your peers in the freshers year). I had been spoonfed the answers from a learner support adviser or SEN team member which set the mood for the rest of school life until college where that was the true sense of independence from needing help which was easy enough since it was all coursework.



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20 Nov 2017, 9:10 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Anyone here who was in special ed and had academic issues and was never at the top of the class? Did anyone ever have to have their work modified? Was your IQ average or below or low average?


I was okay in high school and college. My work was modified, and the times I asked for it to be modified were the times I was taking advantage of the system to get a better grade, so that I don't fail the tests. I felt guilty after all of that, because I knew I was smart enough to go without the assistance.

As for now, I don't feel unintelligent in the factors of common things like school work or getting a job done; that I'm alright with. What I do feel unintelligent in is coping with being overly emotional and being childish in socializing and childish in decision making.



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15 Dec 2017, 8:41 am

why do you need high iq



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15 Dec 2017, 3:06 pm

I have always been considered to be reasonably intelligent, but tbh I have never felt that way. I cannot do mental arithmetic or basic times tables still no matter how many different ways I try to learn them, I take ages to subtract etc in my head and often have to give up.

Someone also said changing fractions into decimals, I had to do that too, fractions confused the hell out of me! Why can't it just be 0.something and be done with it *grumbles*.

I am also terrible at spelling, helariously so. I had to get given a phonetic dictionary in primary school because I often couldn't even work out the first letter let alone the rest! I had teachers rip up my work because they said the spelling was so bad it wasn't worth reading.

I also struggled with vauge questions and had to be given a formula to work out how to answer many exam questions because I would just write down everything I knew hoping to say the right thing at some point! Had a tutor at one point to help me because the teacher refused to.

Despite all of this I now work as a programmer xD so goes to show you shouldn't let those things stop you! Everyone has something they are good at, what is considered useful in our society at the moment is very biased.



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26 Dec 2017, 3:54 am

I have dyslexia & other learning issues & struggled in most of my classes & received accommodations as a result. I even went to a school for dyslexia from the middle of 6th through 8th grade. I do NOT have a special skill/strength/talent that us Aspies are supposed to have. I don't know my IQ but I know I'm stupid compared to the average Aspie.


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26 Dec 2017, 2:38 pm

HughDYork wrote:
why do you need high iq



People don't like stupid people. They don't care if you are slow but if you are intellectually disabled, they give a damn more because it's a disability and being slow is not so they make it out to be your fault.


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26 Dec 2017, 3:01 pm

I'm average intelligence with low anxiety. Developing a lack of worry was my education. In my second career, I figured out how to neurofocus. From there, I took things from start to finish no problem, as long as I neurofocused on one thing. Now, I'm bored out of my mind. I have everything running efficiently and a shedload of free time. I keep taking on new projects to fill my time but it ends up affecting my regular job, so I go back to doing one thing. Everyone tells me I need a girlfriend, which is almost as sickening as too much free time.

My goal is to meet people like me. Where are the successful people with autism who aren't bragging about their IQ?


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26 Dec 2017, 3:13 pm

I'm quasi-successful, and I never brag about my IQ---because there's nothing to brag about.....