Why are feminists not against hijab?

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If a woman wants to wear a hijab for any reason, no one has a right to remove it but I think this is ignoring that women who claim they want to wear a hijab are acting under coercion from their fathers or husbands.

Imagine how those men would they would react if their wives or daughters said she didn't want to wear the hijab?

^I agree with this too. Where i live lots of women are forced to wear it but that's no excuse to demonize hijabis in general or to claim that it's oppression.

This is what I have learned. A lot of feminists tend to be culturally segregated. There is usually separate branches of Black feminism or Feminism for Indian women etc. and the white women tend to stay within their own realm as well.

Even though many say they're ''for all women'' this is usually not the case. I have seen a feminist rally before - the women were all white and marching topless holding up signs (I think that was ''the slut walk'')- that was in in Kitchener Ontario. If you go to one in Toronto (a more diverse city) you will see much of the same thing.

They don't seem to bother too much with women from another culture also I feel they're intimidated (even though they won't admit it) to insult Islam. You know how it is.

The current state of feminism and Islam ironically share a lot of the same traits, which completely go against the rights Western women take for granted.

(Oh..now I've done it. Well looks like I'll have to change profiles and move countries a few times).

Yeah, I can see that. Some of the white feminists say they're for all women but really they're for middle class women. When they say they want to get equal salaries for male and female doctors. How does that help working class women? Sure they might be upset that male doctors are getting $200,000 per year and female doctors are only getting $150,000 per year but if the increase female doctor's salaries, that won't help the working class woman who's struggling to live on $30,000 per year.

The middle class white feminists also talk about how there are more male executives. Sure, they could get a few female senior managers promoted to executive level but that won't help all the working class women who are waiting tables.

These middle class feminists act as though everyone is a doctor or a lawyer or a manager. They act as though everyone is just one promotion away from being an executive. That may be true for them but that's not true for the majority of the population.

Then you've got the black feminists, or intersection feminists as they are now known. These black women are the intersection of being black and being female. Intersectional means they only help people who are a member or two or more marginalised groups.

The intersectional feminists will indignantly tell you that the average woman gets paid 77% as much as the average man, but the average black woman only gets paid 59% as much as the average man. How sexist! What they don't mention is that the average black man is also paid less than the average man.

In other words the intersectional feminists try to turn problems black people face into problems only black women face. Typically their term for black is "of color". There's an article on Everyday Feminism (a website so nutty even other feminists hate it) written by an intersectional feminist that says "women of color" are disproportionately represented in the American prison system. Believe me there are more black men than black women in prison (more men in general). The article also says that transwomen of color are overrepresented in the American prison system. They're not represented very much at all. Less than half a percent. Several orders of magnitude less than the number of cisgendered black dudes in prison.

Ironic that with men making up most of the prison population that this intersectional feminist would say that women are overrepresented in the prison system. Intersectional feminism isn't about helping black men because while black men are in a marginalised group, they are not in the intersection between two or more marginalised groups. If you're in three marginalised groups, such as black and female and lesbian, you could become the queen of the intersectional feminists.

Intersectional feminism is the nexus of the oppression olympics because they compete to see who can be in the intersection of the most oppressed groups at the same time.

You are right in a way. They have much in common including obsessing dogma and dehumanising people who disagree with them. Someone even wrote a song about it.

I think feminism is the result of the human mind's natural aptitude at labelling. The human mind has a natural instinct to apply labels to different things. It divides vehicles into land, sea and air. It divides land vehicles into cars, trucks, trains and buses. It divides cars into sedans, SUVs and hatchbacks, etc.

You problem is that human beings should not be labeled. We are all unique individuals and should not be put into these narrow minded categories. Feminists see people as labels, male, female, white, black, hispanic, native american, gay, straight, queer, bi, trans, cis, gender-fluid or non-binary. Feminists love putting everyone into these tiny boxes. Instead they should just see us all as people.