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10 Nov 2017, 7:04 pm

http://time.com/5018721/roy-moore-alaba ... can-party/

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“Other than being with an underage person – he didn’t really force himself,” Alabama Geneva County GOP chairman Riley Seibenhener also told the Toronto Star writer. “I know that’s bad enough, but I don’t know. If he withdraws, it’s five weeks to the election…that would concede it to the Democrat.”


Someone owes the left an apology.


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10 Nov 2017, 7:09 pm

Also, note the prevalence of red states here
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 30266.html

Or is it okay if a priest approves?


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10 Nov 2017, 7:59 pm

Just like the Hollywood and the "sin music" they condemn


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10 Nov 2017, 11:38 pm

TY, It's important to see what this behavior looks like on both sides of the isle.


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11 Nov 2017, 3:14 am

Fair point, ASPart. Those creeps are losing support on the left, though. We're moving in the correct direction.

More revelations from the religious right.

http://beta.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/l ... story.html

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"Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson advocated for adult men to marry 15- and 16-year-old girls and deemed age 20 too old because "you wait until they get to be 20 years old, the only picking that's going to take place is your pocket." Home-school leader Kevin Swanson, whose 2015 convention was attended by several Republican presidential candidates, defended Robertson on his radio show after the story broke. Advocating for child marriage hasn't slowed down Robertson's career. He just got a new show on the conservative digital network CRTV.

As a teenager, I attended a lecture on courtship by a home-school speaker who was popular at the time. He praised the idea of "early courtship" so the girl could be molded into the best possible helpmeet for her future husband. The girl's father was expected to direct her education after the courtship began so she could help her future husband in his work.

In retrospect, I understand what the speaker was really describing: Adult men selecting and grooming girls who were too young to have life experience. Another word for that is "predation."

Much of the sexual abuse that takes place in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, or IFB, churches involves adult men targeting 14- to 16-year-old girls. If caught, the teenage victim may be forced to repent the "sin" of having seduced an adult man. Former IFB megachurch pastor Jack Schaap argued that he should be released from prison after being convicted of molesting a 16-year-old girl, asserting that the "aggressiveness" of his victim "inhibited [his] impulse control." In the wake of the Schaap case, numerous other stories emerged of sexual abuse cover-ups involving teenage girls at IFB churches. In another high-profile case, pregnant 15-year-old Tina Anderson, who was raped by a church deacon twice her age, was forced to confess her "sin" to the congregation.

Prominent conservative Reformed theologian Doug Wilson has a documented history of mishandling sexual abuse cases within his congregation. Nevertheless, he continues to be promoted by evangelical leaders such as John Piper, whose Desiring God site still publishes Wilson's work. When a 13-year-old girl in Wilson's congregation was sexually abused, Wilson argued that she and her abuser were in a parent-sanctioned courtship, and that this was a mitigating factor.

There’s no shortage of such stories. A Presbyterian Church in America, or PCA, pastor attempted to discipline a woman who warned home-school parents of the convicted sex offender in his congregation. (The sex offender had gone online to solicit a 14-year-old girl for sex.) Another PCA church allowed that same convicted sex offender to give the invocation at a home-school graduation ceremony. He wasn’t perceived as an attempted child rapist, and he was “repentant.”


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11 Nov 2017, 4:24 am

All of the Right? I don't think so. Your thread title looks like flamebait to me, though you are certainly not alone in being the only perpetrator of that in PPR, extremists on both sides have made contributions recently.



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11 Nov 2017, 4:26 am

Elements of the Right Normalize a Pedo, maybe? Feel free to substitute that if you prefer. I think you have a point.

It goes back to a long running argument, and people saying the left or the right implies or doesn't imply all. Better to make it clear. I'll aim for more precision in the future. I felt kind of furious when I made the thread, and still do.

As far as being flamebait, my post is loaded with well-sourced articles. Much of the second one is on the public record.


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11 Nov 2017, 4:41 am

The link you posted is about the minimisation so it would be more accurate to relate the title of the thread to that - Minimisation of Moore's Alleged Sexual Offending. Your link makes it clear that some members of the Alabama GOP appear to have done this.

I am going to lock this thread because my feeling is that it will lead to unnecessary bitterness and conflict.