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14 Nov 2017, 12:15 pm

All the street dogs are being shot or poisoned.All of them.
This link has disturbing images but also a petition to sign.
https://networkforanimals.org/jordan-is ... e-country/


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14 Nov 2017, 3:44 pm

Does anyone know if the Al-Quran promotes killing of dogs and swine as they are declared "unclean" in their holy book? Once again cultural phobias usurp morality/ethics, as a dog owner it's very confronting to view those images even if they are stray dogs



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14 Nov 2017, 4:02 pm

That's f*****g disgusting...and of course religion is being used to justify it, absolutely disgusting....I will sign the petition.

Though I would point out Australia is doing much the same thing to cats, haven't seen any horrific pictures like the ones provided in the link in regards to that yet. They aren't justifying it with religion however, but yeah still very inhumane.


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14 Nov 2017, 7:48 pm

Disgusting.

Poor dogs.


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14 Nov 2017, 9:04 pm

I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?



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14 Nov 2017, 10:08 pm

Yea, we kill rats, squirrels, groundhogs, gophers and mice by the millions and billions. Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens too.



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14 Nov 2017, 10:19 pm

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Yea, we kill rats, squirrels, groundhogs, gophers and mice by the millions and billions. Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens too.


So that means it's ok to go around shooting stray dogs?


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14 Nov 2017, 10:31 pm

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Yea, we kill rats, squirrels, groundhogs, gophers and mice by the millions and billions. Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens too.

Animals raised for food should have a life before slaughter and be raised humanly.
Predators also kill in the wild,to eat or protect their territory,offspring,mate,not to just kill.
There are live traps for vermin.
Greece has stray dogs,they deal with it differently.
http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2013/06/gree ... r-by-many/


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14 Nov 2017, 10:40 pm

EzraS wrote:
I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?

Most are trying to switch to no kill shelters.
I don't have a problem with hyenas or jackals.Predators are good for a healthy ecosystem.It can be problematic when they raid livestock and I can understand why nuisance animals would be shot.
Rats aren't a problem here for me,we have wood rats and they are rather cute.Except for when they chew the spark plug wires off the car.I'm not going to exterminate them for that.Peppermint oil works well as a repellant or keep the hood up in a garage.If you had an infestation in an apartment building that's different.Rats chewing wiring could burn the whole thing down and adjoining structures.


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14 Nov 2017, 10:52 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
jonny23 wrote:
Yea, we kill rats, squirrels, groundhogs, gophers and mice by the millions and billions. Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens too.


So that means it's ok to go around shooting stray dogs?


What's being said is, shooting stray dogs in Jordan is pest control the same as exterminating other mammals such as rats and mice. Plus over 600,000 dogs are put to death in the US each year as a means of pest control. So what is Jordan really guilty of compared to anywhere else that practices animal control?



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14 Nov 2017, 11:00 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?

Most are trying to switch to no kill shelters.
I don't have a problem with hyenas or jackals.Predators are good for a healthy ecosystem.It can be problematic when they raid livestock and I can understand why nuisance animals would be shot.
Rats aren't a problem here for me,we have wood rats and they are rather cute.Except for when they chew the spark plug wires off the car.I'm not going to exterminate them for that.Peppermint oil works well as a repellant or keep the hood up in a garage.If you had an infestation in an apartment building that's different.Rats chewing wiring could burn the whole thing down and adjoining structures.


Well the whole thing in Jordan was set off by a little girl dying because she was attacked by a rabid stray dog. Really it seems like they had inefficient animal control in the past. I'm guessing they don't have a spay and neuter system like we do either. I definitely do not like the idea of dogs being killed. But I don't see the people of Jordan doing it because they are inhumane monsters or whatever.



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14 Nov 2017, 11:10 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?

Most are trying to switch to no kill shelters.
I don't have a problem with hyenas or jackals.Predators are good for a healthy ecosystem.It can be problematic when they raid livestock and I can understand why nuisance animals would be shot.
Rats aren't a problem here for me,we have wood rats and they are rather cute.Except for when they chew the spark plug wires off the car.I'm not going to exterminate them for that.Peppermint oil works well as a repellant or keep the hood up in a garage.If you had an infestation in an apartment building that's different.Rats chewing wiring could burn the whole thing down and adjoining structures.


Well the whole thing in Jordan was set off by a little girl dying because she was attacked by a rabid stray dog. Really it seems like they had inefficient animal control in the past. I'm guessing they don't have a spay and neuter system like we do either. I definitely do not like the idea of dogs being killed. But I don't see the people of Jordan doing it because they are inhumane monsters or whatever.

Yes it is inhumane.How many family pets did they accidentally kill?
Greece also has no spay or neuter program but they manage the stray dog problem humanly.


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14 Nov 2017, 11:12 pm

From a Jordanian citizen.
https://myammanlife.com/2017/09/21/why- ... jis-story/
News from Jordan.
http://en.royanews.tv/news/12423/2017-11-14


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14 Nov 2017, 11:28 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?

Most are trying to switch to no kill shelters.
I don't have a problem with hyenas or jackals.Predators are good for a healthy ecosystem.It can be problematic when they raid livestock and I can understand why nuisance animals would be shot.
Rats aren't a problem here for me,we have wood rats and they are rather cute.Except for when they chew the spark plug wires off the car.I'm not going to exterminate them for that.Peppermint oil works well as a repellant or keep the hood up in a garage.If you had an infestation in an apartment building that's different.Rats chewing wiring could burn the whole thing down and adjoining structures.


Well the whole thing in Jordan was set off by a little girl dying because she was attacked by a rabid stray dog. Really it seems like they had inefficient animal control in the past. I'm guessing they don't have a spay and neuter system like we do either. I definitely do not like the idea of dogs being killed. But I don't see the people of Jordan doing it because they are inhumane monsters or whatever.

Yes it is inhumane.How many family pets did they accidentally kill?
Greece also has no spay or neuter program but they manage the stray dog problem humanly.


The United States kills over 600,000 dogs a year, that's a fact according to the ASPCA. If a stray pet dog gets captured by animal control, and is not claimed, it is killed. And I'm sure that happens a lot. There's really no difference in what Jordan is doing. Jordan has killed like 500 dogs. Your homeland has kills 2.7 million dogs and cats a year.



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14 Nov 2017, 11:31 pm

EzraS wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
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Yea, we kill rats, squirrels, groundhogs, gophers and mice by the millions and billions. Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens too.


So that means it's ok to go around shooting stray dogs?


What's being said is, shooting stray dogs in Jordan is pest control the same as exterminating other mammals such as rats and mice. Plus over 600,000 dogs are put to death in the US each year as a means of pest control. So what is Jordan really guilty of compared to anywhere else that practices animal control?


They don't have Western prudishness, so they do it out in the open instead of behind closed doors.


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14 Nov 2017, 11:45 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not justifying this in any way. But I think if they were rats, no one would care. And if they were hyenas or jackals, people would probably care a lot less. And really don't most countries like the US have animal control and dog pounds where dogs are "put to sleep" by the hundreds?

Most are trying to switch to no kill shelters.
I don't have a problem with hyenas or jackals.Predators are good for a healthy ecosystem.It can be problematic when they raid livestock and I can understand why nuisance animals would be shot.
Rats aren't a problem here for me,we have wood rats and they are rather cute.Except for when they chew the spark plug wires off the car.I'm not going to exterminate them for that.Peppermint oil works well as a repellant or keep the hood up in a garage.If you had an infestation in an apartment building that's different.Rats chewing wiring could burn the whole thing down and adjoining structures.


Well the whole thing in Jordan was set off by a little girl dying because she was attacked by a rabid stray dog. Really it seems like they had inefficient animal control in the past. I'm guessing they don't have a spay and neuter system like we do either. I definitely do not like the idea of dogs being killed. But I don't see the people of Jordan doing it because they are inhumane monsters or whatever.

Yes it is inhumane.How many family pets did they accidentally kill?
Greece also has no spay or neuter program but they manage the stray dog problem humanly.


The United States kills over 600,000 dogs a year, that's a fact according to the ASPCA. If a stray pet dog gets captured by animal control, and is not claimed, it is killed. And I'm sure that happens a lot. There's really no difference in what Jordan is doing. Jordan has killed like 500 dogs. Your homeland has kills 2.7 million dogs and cats a year.

And it's wrong.But they also try to find out if the dog has an owner and try to find it a home.It has a chance,it's not just shot on sight.
There is no excuse for that many unwanted animals.People should spay and neuter.There are free and reduced prices clinics here in most places.
Good luck turning your dog out in the garden,like an owner mentioned in one of the links I posted.They shot that dog,and it wasn't a stray.


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