Obama’s right, women are superior to men. Let me count the

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06 Dec 2017, 7:16 am

As a lifelong feminist I have always balked at the idea that women might be “better than men” because it perpetuates the myth that women and men are polar opposites, and that our skills (or lack of them) is to do with innate qualities rather than as a result of socialisation or opportunity. This particular competition of “who is best at what” further ingrains the false belief that “the battle of the sexes” is here for time immemorial.

The reality is that after thousands of years of living under patriarchy, through no choice or fault of our own, women have developed certain skills as a result of this tyranny. A feminist friend once remarked that “if oppression made one a better person there would be something to be said for it”, and while I agree wholeheartedly with this, the truth is that we have had to become far better than men at most things.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... patriarchy


Bindel at her man hating reactionary feminist best/worst(depending on your POV).
It seems that for some it’s not about a desire for equality but a pathological urge to say “We’re superior”.



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06 Dec 2017, 8:58 am

Julie Bindel is a complete lunatic.



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06 Dec 2017, 9:00 am

This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.



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06 Dec 2017, 11:27 am

It finds them in the cyberbullied and shut down zone


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09 Dec 2017, 5:22 pm

GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.



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11 Dec 2017, 11:31 am

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.


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11 Dec 2017, 11:53 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.

Guys that get put in the friend zone don't think they're entitled to sex. They just don't want to put effort in something when they know they wouldn't be rewarded for it.



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11 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm

Aaendi wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.

Guys that get put in the friend zone don't think they're entitled to sex. They just don't want to put effort in something when they know they wouldn't be rewarded for it.


Some of them do, some of them don't.

Regardless, the ability to get relationships is not a matter of civil liberties.


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11 Dec 2017, 3:15 pm

Did Obama actually say that women are superior to men?


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11 Dec 2017, 6:15 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
Aaendi wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.

Guys that get put in the friend zone don't think they're entitled to sex. They just don't want to put effort in something when they know they wouldn't be rewarded for it.


Some of them do, some of them don't.

Regardless, the ability to get relationships is not a matter of civil liberties.


It sort of is a matter of laws, still. Even if there may still be some people (reduced to a lucky elite few?) whose ability hasn't given up, those long-established powers (mostly progressives on the far-left and even many moderates too) have turned to crap EVERYTHING it has ever touched, even as far as dating and relationships go.

Any attempt to ignore that as the case is simply done for corruption or purely political power reasons.
And it's damage is probably permanent and will get worse as time goes on.

Thanks a lot, you created a living hell for men who are declining and can't find anywhere else to escape.
So much for the "superior" liberal western values these days.



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13 Dec 2017, 12:45 pm

listen, all of you. Feminism is pointless. men's rights movements are pointless. do men happen to have a little more power? yes. Do i like that, no. But there is only one war, one thing we should be focused on. No gender v gender, race v race, but us lower and middle class folk v the new bourgeoisie, the politicians and ceo's. the only war is the class war. No one should have power over another person. ever.all should be equal under the sky.


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13 Dec 2017, 2:59 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Aaendi wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.

Guys that get put in the friend zone don't think they're entitled to sex. They just don't want to put effort in something when they know they wouldn't be rewarded for it.


Some of them do, some of them don't.

Regardless, the ability to get relationships is not a matter of civil liberties.


It sort of is a matter of laws, still. Even if there may still be some people (reduced to a lucky elite few?) whose ability hasn't given up, those long-established powers (mostly progressives on the far-left and even many moderates too) have turned to crap EVERYTHING it has ever touched, even as far as dating and relationships go.

Any attempt to ignore that as the case is simply done for corruption or purely political power reasons.
And it's damage is probably permanent and will get worse as time goes on.

Thanks a lot, you created a living hell for men who are declining and can't find anywhere else to escape.
So much for the "superior" liberal western values these days.


? not entirely sure what you are on about here...


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Did Obama actually say that women are superior to men?


Not to my knowledge.


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Hollywood_Guy wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Aaendi wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
GoSensGo wrote:
This is why you find a lot of people (women included) laughing at modern feminism now. I don't know why anyone would want to be associated with it at this point.

A lot of beta dudes think it will get them laid, but I think they find themselves in the friend zone more often than not.

If more women are laughing at it now, why haven't they openly socially advocated or sympathize for the more numbers of men who complain about being stuck in the friend zone, feeling disadvantaged, having nothing to offer a partner, the fall of educated males compared to females, etc.


Speaking for myself, for one, having relationships/sex is not a right afforded to anyone, and, while I might have a bit of sympathy for a lonely individual of either sex, it's not something I fret overmuch about. As for "feeling disadvantaged," there's a difference between "feeling disadvantaged" and actually being disadvantaged, and being disadvantaged is not limited to males. As for education, last time I checked, more males than females are graduating with STEM degrees, and going into trades which don't necessarily require college education. I'm not convinced a lack of men with sociology degrees, or philosophy degrees necessarily heralds the doom of civilization.

Guys that get put in the friend zone don't think they're entitled to sex. They just don't want to put effort in something when they know they wouldn't be rewarded for it.


Some of them do, some of them don't.

Regardless, the ability to get relationships is not a matter of civil liberties.


It sort of is a matter of laws, still. Even if there may still be some people (reduced to a lucky elite few?) whose ability hasn't given up, those long-established powers (mostly progressives on the far-left and even many moderates too) have turned to crap EVERYTHING it has ever touched, even as far as dating and relationships go.

Any attempt to ignore that as the case is simply done for corruption or purely political power reasons.
And it's damage is probably permanent and will get worse as time goes on.

Thanks a lot, you created a living hell for men who are declining and can't find anywhere else to escape.
So much for the "superior" liberal western values these days.


I haven't "created" anything.

And the notion that dating/relationships are not a "right" is not a "liberal" one. Most people across the political spectrum would object to being forced to date/have sex with someone they didn't find attractive.


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14 Dec 2017, 7:05 pm

einsteinmyhero wrote:
listen, all of you. Feminism is pointless. men's rights movements are pointless. do men happen to have a little more power? yes. Do i like that, no. But there is only one war, one thing we should be focused on. No gender v gender, race v race, but us lower and middle class folk v the new bourgeoisie, the politicians and ceo's. the only war is the class war. No one should have power over another person. ever.all should be equal under the sky.


That on one end which remains unchallenged should leave that on the other end unchallenged.