Melania Avoiding Trump over Emerging Sex Scandal

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09 Feb 2018, 8:26 pm

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On the other hand Trump’s payment of hush money to Ms. Davis was collusion in an attempt to effect the results of the election but nobody is talking about that not even the resistance, all anybody cares about is schadenfreude that Melania might be a little pissed off about something that she knew she was getting into.

I think it's more than schadenfreude, I reference the Clinton sex scandal because essentially Trump has done the same thing, except Trump is smarter. He took out a non-disclosure agreement with Stormy Daniels knowing this would pop up if he as elected into office. Daniels is on the record in 2009 of disclosing what happened so the hush money paid indicates theres no dispute Trump banged Daniels when Melania was pregnant with Barron. The difference is it can't go to court (at this point)

It's a question of integrity that if a leader is willing to cheat on their pregnant wife they would have no problem cheating the American people...

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09 Feb 2018, 9:44 pm

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18 page thread so far and still going strong. Why do people keep claiming autistics are above such things as trivial gossip?

I wouldn't call the POTUS chasing skirt idle gossip, I remember the news that went on for years when Clinton (Bill) left a semen stain on a certain blue dress...

I am not talking about sexual crimes Trump might have done but the state of his marriage as a result of the revelation of a consensual affair that happened a dozen years ago.

20 years ago when the Lewinsky thing was going on I was infuriated at all the attention it was receiving. Impeaching him over a consensual blow job was ethically treasonous. If a persons sex life does not consitute a crime or affect thier job it should be nobody else's business.

Two key factors. First it occured in the Oval Office. Second he was impeached for committing perjury, which is a crime. He got impeached for the same thing Flynn got a felony indictment for.

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For me personally the whole schadenfreude aspect is uninteresting and irrelevant. The idea that hush money being paid is collusion to effect the outcome of an election, is the only relevant issue and is what should have been discussed.

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09 Feb 2018, 10:43 pm

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The idea that hush money being paid is collusion to effect the outcome of an election, is the only relevant issue and is what should have been discussed.

That is the issue....

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09 Feb 2018, 10:45 pm

cyberdad wrote:

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The idea that hush money being paid is collusion to effect the outcome of an election, is the only relevant issue and is what should have been discussed.

That is the issue....

Not according to the title of this thread.

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10 Feb 2018, 3:20 am

The OP is cyberdad and most of the original post is about Melania who is irrelevent to the matter at hand.

I am not a lawyer but from what I have read paying hush money to cover up a legal activity such as a consensual affair is not a crime so while it is not criminal it probably should be impeachable.

IMHO all of the Melenia speculation is just a way to get at Trump just as IMHO the impeachment charges against Clinton were a smokescreen because people could not accept that an ex hippie anti war protester got elected twice and was having a better sex life then they could ever dream of.

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10 Feb 2018, 4:46 am

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IMHO all of the Melenia speculation is just a way to get at Trump just as IMHO the impeachment charges against Clinton were a smokescreen because people could not accept that an ex hippie anti war protester got elected twice and was having a better sex life then they could ever dream of.

Melania is avoiding Trump precisely because he paid hush money to Stormy Daniels...

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10 Feb 2018, 5:17 am

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The bigger issue is the $130K his campaign reimbursed Trump International for.. you're not allowed to use campaign funds to pay hush money to influence the outcome of an election.

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10 Feb 2018, 6:47 pm

cyberdad wrote:

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Melania is avoiding Trump precisely because he paid hush money to Stormy Daniels...

Probably true but an irrelevant distraction.

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14 Feb 2018, 4:27 pm

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/ ... 13?cid=apn

Uh, sure, buddy.. sure you used your own money and weren't reimbursed..

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14 Feb 2018, 9:07 pm

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/13/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-407913?cid=apn

Uh, sure, buddy.. sure you used your own money and weren't reimbursed..

The lawyer is a good-hearted man who just wanted to protect his friend. Trump and him never even talked about it. Yeah right

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16 Feb 2018, 5:14 pm

Another playboy model has come forward with evidence Trump had a 9 month extramarital affair
https://thefix.nine.com.au/2018/02/17/0 ... n-mcdougal

What's interesting just this week is our conservative Australian prime minister has passed into law that sitting ministers can't have affairs with their staff. The new law is aimed at removing the deputy prime minister

Trump is playing a dangerous game, he's like the little Dutch boy trying to plug holes in the dam with his fingers

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16 Feb 2018, 6:49 pm

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These appearently consensual affairs have the potential to distract from the p**** grabbing and #MeToo which is about unwanted and criminal sexual behavoirs.

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21 Mar 2018, 4:41 am

I don't know American law well enough to know if this is as sweet as it sounds but:

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George MurphyFollow
March 12 at 3:11am ·
The upshot is this:
Her suit asks the court to decide whether a contract requiring her silence is valid. The contract is anonymized, meaning that both parties in the contract are referred to by pseudonyms (Stormy is PP and Trump is allegedly DD).
This leaves Trump with two options:
Deny that he is DD. This means that Stormy is fully within her rights to release all of the photos and text messages that Trump denied the existence of. These were apparently damning enough to merit $130,000 in hush money.
Assert that he is DD and is entitled to all the protections in the contract. While this might prevent her from releasing the material, it will essentially confirm (a) that he and/or Michael Cohen committed campaign finance violations and (b) that they set up LLCs to conceal crimes.
Another point is that adultery is a crime in NY state. If Trump owns the contract, then the contract is potentially voidable, because you can't contract to cover up a crime. It's gorgeous.
If that makes whatever prenup trump and Meliana void, what's the odds she divorces him in the next couple of months?
Let's take it another step: If she still gets half of everything anyway (or some portion, at least) because he voided the ‘contract’, we’ll also end up with some kind of public reckoning of his finances!
I never realised just how much good porn has done in this world until right now.

Thoughts?

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24 Mar 2018, 3:06 pm