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20 Feb 2018, 7:59 pm

In recent times, I've heard "negro" used as an insult by one black person towards another.

Something like: "You're such a negro---why do you keep hanging with this man" or something similar.



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20 Feb 2018, 8:57 pm

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...I meant that Crouch still used " Negro ", not " Negri ", that was my clumsy fingers and this little phone's keyboard. Crouch apparently still writes his News column, but a quick look found nothing more recent than 2014. I don't know whether the 21st Century NYDN would have, Standards & Practices-wise, allowed the continued use of " Negro ".
Malcolm X made use of this " Oreo cookie " sarcastic meaning of " Negro " so it's over 50 years old.





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......and changed its borders a great deal over the years - and post-World War II a great many German-identified people who.were driven out of other parts of Europe took up residence in Gernany - And, German-speaking Austria wa, for many centuries, the massive Austria-Hungarian Empire, with many many many other ethnic groups & languages...What is the definition if " German " we're using here?
That usage of " Negro " is new to me, Kraich. When I lived in the NYC area in the 90s, the sorta conservativeish black writer Stanley Crouch had a column in the New York Daily News and would refer to his people as " Negri ". He was still using it. I recall a non-fiction piece in Truman Capofe' s collection " Music For Chameleons " in which he profiled a black domestic who was rather old and she preferred the phrase " colored ", feeling it was perfectly fine. In the late Seventies.


But the particular usage of the word "negro" as a slur is comparatively recent.
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That is correct, and is used by only a specific few.


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20 Feb 2018, 9:29 pm

...The black culture meaning of " Negro " that both KK and I have overheard the use of, you mean? That is only used by a select few?


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20 Feb 2018, 9:31 pm

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...The black culture meaning of " Negro " that both KK and I have overheard the use of, you mean? That is only used by a select few?


No, meaning white nationalists.


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21 Feb 2018, 11:21 pm

Soon, it will the the 100th Anniversary of The Second World War. By then, many of Roosevelt's skeletons shall be let out of the closet.



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22 Feb 2018, 12:26 am

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Soon, it will the the 100th Anniversary of The Second World War. By then, many of Roosevelt's skeletons shall be let out of the closet.


FDR was by no means perfect. But I like to believe his accomplishments will always overshadow his faults.


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22 Feb 2018, 12:43 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Soon, it will the the 100th Anniversary of The Second World War. By then, many of Roosevelt's skeletons shall be let out of the closet.


FDR was by no means perfect. But I like to believe his accomplishments will always overshadow his faults.

Perhaps, you are right. But, I am not too sure.



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22 Feb 2018, 12:48 am

TwinRuler wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TwinRuler wrote:
Soon, it will the the 100th Anniversary of The Second World War. By then, many of Roosevelt's skeletons shall be let out of the closet.


FDR was by no means perfect. But I like to believe his accomplishments will always overshadow his faults.

Perhaps, you are right. But, I am not too sure.



Nobody's legacy is without blemish, but not only did FDR help America during the Great Depression when unfettered capitalism almost destroyed the country, he also led us to victory against imperialist fascism, even though he didn't live to see the end of the war.


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22 Feb 2018, 12:59 am

he had a very sad end to a very challenging later adulthood.



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22 Feb 2018, 1:28 am

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he had a very sad end to a very challenging later adulthood.


Yes, but he never gave into his polio which took the use of his legs. Despite his many flaws, he was still an indomitable human being.


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22 Feb 2018, 1:38 am

the latest historical "news" on him is that he shot himself in the head down in warm springs, Georgia, but this was hidden from the American public for decades.



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22 Feb 2018, 1:54 am

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the latest historical "news" on him is that he shot himself in the head down in warm springs, Georgia, but this was hidden from the American public for decades.



I can't see that Iron Man doing himself in before the job with the war was done.
I wouldn't doubt that it's the far right that is responsible for such crap. They had been lying about him since day one of his first run for the PResidency.


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22 Feb 2018, 11:05 am

It was plainly obvious that Roosevelt's health was declining.

Compare the pictures early in the war (i.e., 1941, 1942) with what he looked like during the Yalta Conference (which occurred shortly before he passed away).