Stuff I Learned From Using Conservative Internet Forums

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The dedicated atheist does carry the burden of unvarnished truth and the profound ugliness unveiled as a result of the associated commitment, but that is the price one pays when one wishes to transcend the philosophies, if one wishes to use that term, of lesser beings...
Truely, one must consider the words of Puck: "...what fools these mortals be!"

But then to embrace a menial roll of someone else's making?
To meekly forfeit the hard-fought gains of a profound and torturous battle against ignorance and petty servitude of man-made directives which are base and unworthy of our true potential?

Begone, thou harlot of deception and mischief...
Thy black heartedness is in evidence and thou wouldst have us forsake the glory of enlightenment and emancipation...

<with quivering cold rage>
Were I to meet thee on the field of battle I would smite thee with glee and self-righteousness...
Begone, thy stench offends my senses...

<the atheistic knight of truth and justice strides resolutely away from the villainous presence>
<the soft sound of "the impossible dream" can be heard accompanying him as he exits stage right>

What knowest thou, that we know not? What understandest thou, which is not in us?

Actually I don't think I ever have unless it was linked from another forum and then I only read the linked article. I also don't listen to conservative talk shows. There are also no political stickers on the back of any vehicle I've ever owned.
Why not? Because I don't need to have my beliefs bolstered by anyone else.

Now, If you'd like me to +r0ll you with off-the-wall anti-liberal posts I can do that without breaking a sweat.

Mikah, Islamophobia is very real, however liberals have a hard time distinguishing hate of muslims from justified criticism of muslims. If you have studied theology like I have, you will realize that there is plenty of criticism within Islam itself, since the hadiths are based on hearsay, yet many muslims follow the hadiths as if Muhammed or Allah had actually said what is quoted in the hadiths. Without the hadiths, Islam would actually progress towards a position comparable to modern Catholicism or Christian Orthodoxy maybe even a bit more liberal than those. However if you have environments that are hostile towards academic thought, then you end up with hardcore medieval style religious beliefs and lots of hatred towards those who are different.

And Islam is very diverse when it comes to different schools and practices. Among the more liberal sects of Islam are Ahmadiyyas, Sufis, Quranists and debatable whether it is Islam or not: Alevites. More conservative to ultra-conservative sects are Wahabis, Salafis and Khajirites.

About 80% of the muslim world count as moderate. However the ultraconservatism muslims tend to make up a larger portion of the muslim population than the ultraconservative among Christians. Due to this, the ultraconservative muslims have more profile and people then think that they represent Islam. Relatively liberal muslim nations are and have been, Syria, Lebanon, Tunisia, Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Indonesia, parts of China, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and to some extent Turkey, Egypt and Bangladesh. Probably most liberal among the list are Albania, Azerbaijan and Kosovo.

Yeah, the far right is just as bad as the far left. They just don't see it. They do get just as easily offended by the dumbest things. Some idiots decided to dress up as Nazis in Charlottetown so we should be offended that Wolfenstein II having Nazis as enemies...even though Wolfenstein has always had Nazis as enemies. Do those people hear themselves think? Apparently there are people getting offended over Far Cry 5's premise for some equally stupid reason. Yes, the left gets offended by stupid things all the time, but let's not pretend the right doesn't do it.

This whole movement against what many feel are examples of descrimination against White guys, isn't without merit. However, it falls into the same traps as other forms of activism. Do the people who are actively participating in this movement have blinders on, and only focus on issues relevant to the group they've chosen to represent while ignoring all other socioeconomic issues? Check. Do they criticize other activist groups for having agendas that aren't they're own, while hypocritically believing it's justified for them, and only them to act in their own self-interests? Check.

Do some of their more extreme members distrust other groups to the point that they discriminate against them in a fashion that can be objectively construed as racist or sexist? Check. Do they add the issue of identity into topics and discussions where it isn't always warranted or relevant? Check. As established above, they are most definitely getting offended by the dumbest things. Are they part of the solution for this insufferable political climate that's so focused on identity that it's getting really annoying? No. Not even close. Once I realized this group is exactly like the feminists and race activists they criticize, I've learned to just ignore them.

I firmly believe all activism is good-intentioned, but there's the saying that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and that's very much true here. Activists of all kinds often have blinders on, and many often take things too far. Worse yet, they never seem to think they're taking things too far at all, even when they clearly are.

As for political leanings, I don't see anything wrong with leaning to the left or right. I do however have a problem with people who lean too far in one direction that they're incapable of looking at any issue objectively, and start denying things like proven facts for no rational reason, all because the truth doesn't line up with their political leaning. They're part of the cancer that has now led us down the worst rabbit hole we've fallen into in my lifetime. Seriously, screw identity politics, and please stop blaming one side or the other for all of this. If you're talking about identity and inserting it into everything, I don't care if you're left, right or center. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

Good post

Good point about "check", mate...
But I believe the first step is to check one's emotionalism at the foyer and don one's intellectual/objectivity cap on before confronting the arguments proffered...
As you implied...


Yes, confirmation bias is a disease which most people seem to contract on a regular basis...
Apparently, most people don't have the intellectual/emotional capacity or maturity to understand where you are coming from...

You are preaching to the choir, with me, however...
And I perseverate what is being discussed here all over the place...
People have to constantly clean up after me...
Naughty Pepe...

BTW, where have you been all my life?

Ah, thank you for clarifying.

For the record, I love "Star Trek" as much as the next nerd, but I do not consider it a viable option for the future.

Thanks!

Yes, I would consider myself a pragmatist.

If that's to be taken literally, I don't know how to respond to that. If that's a compliment of my analysis of the political landscape I'll say that it took me long enough to figure out where I stand and gain a proper understanding of both sides of the political spectrum so I could verify that there are people on both sides who are more or less reasonable. Pity it's the bad seeds who are breaking the internet right now. Actually, that doesn't surprise me. Reasonable people don't break the internet. Passion attracts people like flies, whether they agree or disagree with what is being said, while indifference is largely ignored. Passion can be a good thing, but it often comes with a set of blinders.

"Passion is the nemesis of objectivity..."
How about some coffee and cake some time? <joke>

I was saying I can relate to the way you think...
And I am a late bloomer also...