Opioid epidemic literally hurting people who need them

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14 Feb 2018, 2:06 pm

When It Comes To Pain Meds Jeff Sessions Is Ignorent and Wrong

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When Attorney General Jeff Sessions advised people in pain to “take some aspirin” and “tough it out” during a speech in Tampa last week, the federal prosecutors in his audience laughed. Mitzie Katzen, who has suffered from complex regional pain syndrome since she was a teenager, had a different reaction.

“I was just floored,” Katzen says. “I could not believe what I was reading, and I thought that has to be somebody who has never experienced really severe pain for any length of time.”

Katzen’s perspective on Sessions’ remarks illuminates the depravity of a policy that sacrifices the interests of patients like her in the name of fighting the “opioid epidemic.”

Saying “this country prescribes too many opioids,” Sessions cited the stoic example set by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, a former Marine general who refused to take pain medication while recovering from hand surgery. Although “it did hurt,” Sessions said, “you can get through these things.”

It’s not clear why people would choose to suffer postsurgical pain that could be easily relieved by an opioid analgesic, especially since the risks associated with medical use of such drugs are minimal. A large study reported last month in The BMJ found that just 1 percent of people who took prescription analgesics after surgery showed signs of “opioid misuse.”

The risk of a fatal overdose among people who take opioids for pain is even lower — something like 0.02 percent annually, judging from a 2015 study reported in the journal Pain Medicine.

The attorney general’s medical advice is not just senseless but cruel, especially if it is applied to chronic pain patients like Katzen. A 55-year-old mother of three who lives in Fort Worth, Texas, Katzen began experiencing nerve pain after a bout of Rocky Mountain spotted fever when she was 15.

Katzen currently takes methadone and oxycodone, occasionally supplemented by injections of Demerol (meperidine) when the pain gets really bad. “Without medication, I really can’t function,” she says. “It’s hard to move my arms. It’s hard to walk.”

Katzen knows that because a doctor who disapproved of the drugs she was taking once cut her dosage in half, leaving her essentially bedridden. That is the sort of indignity that an indiscriminate drive to reduce opioid use inflicts on people with severe chronic pain, who are often treated like drug-seeking criminals instead of patients.
Thanks to an arbitrary cap that took effect at the beginning of this year, Katzen’s insurer is now covering just a fraction of the pain medication she takes. She worries that regulatory pressure will discourage doctors like hers from prescribing opioids, that “they’ll decide it’s just too great a risk.”

That fear is well-founded. “There are many pain clinics flooded with patients who have been treated previously by their primary care physician,” says Jianguo Cheng, president-elect of the American Academy of Pain Medicine. He says these refugees include patients who “have been functional” and “responding well” to opioids for “many years.” Some have been driven to suicide.


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14 Feb 2018, 3:14 pm

Jeff Sessions attitude isn't just ignorant and wrong, its also rather dangerous.


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14 Feb 2018, 3:30 pm

We've had opiates become prescription only from the start of February.
We had doctors telling us to manage chronic and acute pain with meditation, exercise and cognitive therapy.
Yeah, right. :roll:


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17 Feb 2018, 4:42 am

Raleigh wrote:
We've had opiates become prescription only from the start of February.
We had doctors telling us to manage chronic and acute pain with meditation, exercise and cognitive therapy.
Yeah, right. :roll:


8O

Opiates were available OTC in Australia? :?


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17 Feb 2018, 5:06 am

^ yes.


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19 Feb 2018, 11:48 am

Raleigh wrote:
^ yes.


All of them? Like Oxy's?

Very strange. They've only been by prescription here and have still led to MASS addiction, which has led to street drug use, and now huge numbers of people dying from fentanyl overdoses.. to the point that Naloxone kits are now being handed out free in many parts of Canada. In 2017, 1,420 people died of drug overdoses in BC alone.


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19 Feb 2018, 3:50 pm

IIRC, Canada had these things called "222s" that were OTC behind the pharmacist's counter, no script needed, that had 8mg codeine and about 300mg acetaminophen or aspirin in them. they work. If they are no longer available, I am bummed. :pale:



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19 Feb 2018, 6:04 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
^ yes.


All of them? Like Oxy's?

Very strange. They've only been by prescription here and have still led to MASS addiction, which has led to street drug use, and now huge numbers of people dying from fentanyl overdoses.. to the point that Naloxone kits are now being handed out free in many parts of Canada. In 2017, 1,420 people died of drug overdoses in BC alone.

You used to be able to get up to 30mg OTC but they changed that a couple of years ago to 15mg.
You could only get 20 tablets every 20 days, and you had to provide ID and get placed on a register to prevent people from doing the rounds of the chemists.
Towards the end you got the full on nazi interrogation from the pharmacist. 8O
I do have a prescription for 30mg but it was easier just to go to the chemist when they were available there.


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19 Feb 2018, 6:27 pm

Personally I think all drugs should be legalized, but that's just me.
Leaving that aside, though, not only is pain, well, painful, but chronic pain can be not only debilitating but also extremely depressing. When I had my wisdom teeth out I was beginning to have self-destructive thoughts by the end of it. I can't imagine how demoralizing it must be for those who have to deal with pain like that all the time. It's not just people's comfort at stake, it's their mental health, and therefore their physical health as well.


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19 Feb 2018, 6:41 pm

if you're working class here in most places, it is almost impossible to get a script for pain killers these days. not even non-narcotic ones.



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19 Feb 2018, 7:07 pm

^ Do they have paracetamol OTC?


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19 Feb 2018, 8:30 pm

I believe that has been OTC since its introduction in 1958, here at least. limited to 500mg. I take 1 every 6 hours. sometimes an ibuprofen as well. but some pains require far more.



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19 Feb 2018, 8:56 pm

^ well, that's something, I guess.
Since codeine went prescription only, Panadeine has replaced it with paracetamol + caffeine.
Not sure what that's supposed to do?
Make you more awake to the pain? :|


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19 Feb 2018, 9:00 pm

if you add ibuprofen or extra-strength [600mg] aspirin [preferably buffered] to that, you get the equivalent of Excedrine Extra-Strength for migraines. the paracetamol + caffeine + NSAID work synergistically to calm the pulsating cranial vessels behind some migraines. I get visual migraines and that works for me. but I really need the big guns [narcotics] for my musculoskeletal ails, at times.



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19 Feb 2018, 9:03 pm

cheracol with codeine useta be OTC here, long ago. I shoulda stockpiled it.



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19 Feb 2018, 9:29 pm

Raleigh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
^ yes.


All of them? Like Oxy's?

Very strange. They've only been by prescription here and have still led to MASS addiction, which has led to street drug use, and now huge numbers of people dying from fentanyl overdoses.. to the point that Naloxone kits are now being handed out free in many parts of Canada. In 2017, 1,420 people died of drug overdoses in BC alone.

You used to be able to get up to 30mg OTC but they changed that a couple of years ago to 15mg.
You could only get 20 tablets every 20 days, and you had to provide ID and get placed on a register to prevent people from doing the rounds of the chemists.
Towards the end you got the full on nazi interrogation from the pharmacist. 8O
I do have a prescription for 30mg but it was easier just to go to the chemist when they were available there.
This sounds similar to the restrictions on Sudafed here in the states. I buy a pack every month or so cuz me & my girlfriend both have sinus & allergy problems & can get sinus headaches.

My girlfriend has a lot of pain issues partly due to fibromyalgia, arthritis, & injuries she suffered as a kid, teen & adult. She can barely do anything some days partly cuz of that & cuz of depression. She's tried different pain meds out including Tylenol, at least a few anti-inflammatories, more than a few antidepressants, & Neurontin. Some things help some but nothing has helped enough. The only narcotic she's tried is Tramadol & it didn't have any effect on her but she wasn't prescribed Tylenol with it which I read can help increase the efficiency of Tramadol & her dose was also really low. I wish the docs would be open to trying her on something more potent &/or medical marijuana cuz I've known at least a few people online with similar type issues who insisted those things helped. It's very frustrating & depressing for her to be jumping through all these hoops & not really getting anywhere


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