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17 Feb 2018, 11:51 pm

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That every town in America should have a well organized, well trained, and intensely disciplined militia. The local militia should maintain the heavy, high powered, high capacity, and automatic weapons. That every single able bodied person should be required to train and work with the militia, and that a part of being in the militia is community service. Probably a far more relevant part of it than the weapons training, really. I think that the militia could probably do away with most of the city jobs where I live, as well as do fun stuff like pick up trash and dog poop, maintain the local parks, clean up graffiti, guard the homeless people while they sleep, any sort of grunt work that needs to be done.
And they'd also get to train with assault rifles.
And really, if a person isn't willing to do all of those things and more (a whole lot more) for their communities, then they've got no business handling firearms, or even talking about the second amendment.

In a nutshell.



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17 Feb 2018, 11:58 pm

me and my shaky hands are not the best ones to be trusted with a high-powered anything. but I like the rest of your idea.



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18 Feb 2018, 1:02 am

elbowgrease wrote:
I think,
That every town in America should have a well organized, well trained, and intensely disciplined militia. The local militia should maintain the heavy, high powered, high capacity, and automatic weapons. That every single able bodied person should be required to train and work with the militia, and that a part of being in the militia is community service. Probably a far more relevant part of it than the weapons training, really. I think that the militia could probably do away with most of the city jobs where I live, as well as do fun stuff like pick up trash and dog poop, maintain the local parks, clean up graffiti, guard the homeless people while they sleep, any sort of grunt work that needs to be done.
And they'd also get to train with assault rifles.
And really, if a person isn't willing to do all of those things and more (a whole lot more) for their communities, then they've got no business handling firearms, or even talking about the second amendment.

In a nutshell.

Awesome concepts. I wish we could do it.


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18 Feb 2018, 4:00 am

Time to start our own Autistic militia commune 8)


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18 Feb 2018, 5:32 am

elbowgrease wrote:
I think,
That every town in America should have a well organized, well trained, and intensely disciplined militia. The local militia should maintain the heavy, high powered, high capacity, and automatic weapons. That every single able bodied person should be required to train and work with the militia, and that a part of being in the militia is community service. Probably a far more relevant part of it than the weapons training, really. I think that the militia could probably do away with most of the city jobs where I live, as well as do fun stuff like pick up trash and dog poop, maintain the local parks, clean up graffiti, guard the homeless people while they sleep, any sort of grunt work that needs to be done.
And they'd also get to train with assault rifles.
And really, if a person isn't willing to do all of those things and more (a whole lot more) for their communities, then they've got no business handling firearms, or even talking about the second amendment.

In a nutshell.

Every able bodied person? Does that include women? Will people be paid for being in the militia?


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18 Feb 2018, 6:33 am

If the mass murderer here didn't have the gun that he had... would he have been able to kill 17 people?


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18 Feb 2018, 10:06 am

Yes that includes women, and young adults. (My mom was an army MP).
No, they wouldn't be paid.
Free uniforms, free training, possibly free meals during service, but strictly volunteer.
It's got to be worth something more than money.



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18 Feb 2018, 4:12 pm

If it's on a strictly volunteer basis does that mean it's not mandatory?

Or is it voluntary only in the sense of being unpaid?


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18 Feb 2018, 5:33 pm

Guns don't kill people. The Devil kills people.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... ontent=367


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18 Feb 2018, 9:18 pm

Guns don't kill people, video games kill people. Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin says video games made the killer kill.

We can blame it on video games, we can blame on the devil, we can blame it on rock and roll music. Anything but guns. Guns are good and pure.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... -shooting/


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18 Feb 2018, 9:25 pm

or you can blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alcohol like people were doing in the 20s.


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18 Feb 2018, 9:27 pm

Blame it on the boogie.


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19 Feb 2018, 8:35 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
If the mass murderer here didn't have the gun that he had... would he have been able to kill 17 people?

Timothy McVeigh used homemade bombs and killed 168 people.

Where there's a will, there's a way.


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19 Feb 2018, 8:37 am

The absence of guns wouldn't stop all forms of murder so let's use the perfect solution fallacy!


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20 Mar 2018, 12:52 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
or you can blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alcohol like people were doing in the 20s.


alcohol has something to do with it, actually. https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... shootings/

as do a history of violent crime or domestic violence.



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20 Mar 2018, 1:02 am

what I don't think has been discussed much about this situation, is how this could be symptomatic of a need for power that a lot of people here in amuuurica, have. the people who accumulate firepower seem to have, for want of better words, a greed for power. :idea: