Youngest age to date with a girl?

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If she lives in a western country there’s no risk on her; she can take half of his wealth upon divorce.

I dunno...I mean, if that’s what a woman feels she needs or wants in a life partner, I see nothing intrinsically wrong with that.

There are risks and benefits for any pairing you can imagine. Older/younger pairs at extremes don’t offend me. It’s the motivation behind it. If a man is only attracted to 18-21 year olds, what happens if a LTR develops and she ages out? Trade her out for a new model? That’s unfair to her because you refuse to see her as anything more than her age. But if you don’t value relationships and she understands FWB/NSA is as far as it goes, then you’ve got a winner. My personal preference is towards longer commitments, so I could never do that. But it might work out well for someone else.

Then you have the kink/fetish aspect of only dating (“barely legal”) teens. I would say that’s a problem because the same justification makes pedophilia ok. The difference is only that one will land you in prison while the other will not. It might not constitute an actual psychological problem, but then it might. It’s more a philosophical problem to work out—SHOULD one only date within a certain age range, and why? Depending on your goals for a relationship, you might have safer alternatives.

That not more means not more, she didn't say your view was worth less, she said it wasn't worth more. If you mean she was implying something else, I wouldn't know because I can't pick up that kind of thing .

So much love in the air.

How did you do it? Were you charming? Were you middle class? Did you impress her with your wealth or your good looks? What did you do?

I don’t hate Chronos and it might have been an honest mistake. Maybe I haven’t read enough posts from her, but it struck me as so unusual to the point I had to read the comment AGAIN and then I wondered if her account had been hacked and someone was trolling me.

As I said, if we merely disagreed, I could respect that. If she meant what you said she meant, and you might be right, then it shouldn’t matter if I’m a hetero male, female, or a bisexual trans hermaphrodite unicorn that poops rainbow frozen yogurt. It shouldn’t even have entered the conversation. But SHE brought gender into the conversation when she insinuated that my views are problematic on the basis of my gender. I don’t mean the content of the discussion, I just mean attacking the validity of my views based on being a straight man. Attacking my views is not an assault on me. Trying to invalidate my views by bringing up my being a straight man IS such an attack.

I’ve never had any beef with Chronos before and if she doesn’t apologize now I won’t hold it against her. Simply not having it happen again will suffice and we shall speak no more of it. So unless it comes up again I have no more to say. Consider it dropped.

^^ If I were you, I would have replied "You're right, I am a heterosexual male, but I am married to a heterosexual female - while you are not".

Learn how to make comebacks .

I will let this go but first I need to make this clear, if there are any bisexual trans hermaphrodite unicorns that poop rainbow frozen yogurt out there reading this, please say hello.

Pointing out that a person who is not a member of a demographic cannot understand the perspectives and experiences of that demographic better than actual members of that demographic is not shaming. It's reality.

As a cis male, you will never have the same level of authority on cis female perspectives as cis females, because you are not a cis female, you do not experience life as a cis female, you are not related to as a cis female, and your thoughts and perspectives do not originate from the mind of a cis female. Everything you know on how cis females think, feel, and perceive as a cis female, you must obtain by extrinsic means...being told, observation, and your own reasoning and deduction, but never from an emic perspective. Likewise I cannot claim the authority of a cis male on things pertaining to the perspectives of cis males. Everything I know on the perspectives and desires of cis males comes from studies, my own observations, reasoning and deductions, and most importantly, heeding of the word of cis males themselves. If my own conclusions on the matter bwgin to conflict with the testimonials of cis males, then I must abandon them in favor of that from the source. An overwhelming cohort of adult cis males have voiced a preference for younger rather than older women. Who is a cis female to assert otherwise?



Aesthetics is subjective among women. Have you noticed how women will call an article of clothing "cute"? They don't mean cute like puppies and kittens. They mean it's acceptable and might look good on the right person with in the right outfit, with the right shoes.

The concept of aesthetics becomes a multidimensional object with time, place, application, situation, relevance and so on taken in to account.

Sean Connery is hansdome...asterisk.

*He is handsome...for an old man.

You don't look fat in those jeans....asterisk.

*You don't look fatter than the 300lbs that you are in those jeans.

What a cute baby....asterisk.

*What an ugly little mofo, but it's a baby, which is part of the definition of cute.

If you want to know if a woman would date someone, you will get more of a conclusive answer asking directly, because her claiming she finds someone good looking doesn't imply she would date them or even be open to a romantic or sexual relationship with them.



You need objective evidence because you lack an emic perspective and the wealth of information bestowed by that emic perspective. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but on the subject of the perspectives held by a particular demographic, the opinions of someone outside of that demographic do not hold authority over the actual perspectives of the members of that demographic.

I think it's ludicrous that you expect me to apologize for pointing out that your opinions on cis female perspectives and experiences don't supercede actual cis female perspectives and experiences.

I highly recommend that you take in to account positional context.

Some May-December romances DO work.

My father is 25 years older than his present wife---and they celebrated their 30th anniversary last year. They met when he was in his late 40's, and she was in her early 20's.

The lady owns her own company, and has owned it since at least the 1980s. She's done well, despite possibly having dyslexia. She's a very independent, assertive woman who doesn't take any crap.

What?

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Fluffy is just being drolly satirical.

I've never mastered "droll." The best I can do is parody.

An excellent example of a "droll" person: Alice Kramden, wife of Ralph Kramden---from "The Honeymooners."

People I played games with today said it’s not ok for a 21 old to try to date a 18/19 woman.

And if the older male has the same or less life experience?

Those people you spoke to should really go out and meet actual people. They sound like their opinions are not based upon what they actually experience.

It's ridiculous to say that a 21-year-old man shouldn't go out with an 18-year-old woman. Most people would believe this is so.