The 15 billion yrs of cosmos & 6 dys of creation r same.

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you made that statment cause you didnt like mcbeth's one-liner and chose to ignore it and reply with your own onliner...

Yes, I remember now. (I had mental block.) He was bating/tweaking me, like he likes to, and that's what I was objecting to, not his brevity. Actually, I'll always read a short post, whereas I'll rarely read a long post. I'm a fairly slow reader, so reading long posts is costly of my time. You know when movies/TV shows have text intros or conclusions? The text often goes away before I can finish reading it. Then I imagine machine-gunning the producer, and balance is restored. j/k.

ok well lol

Nice assumption-work on your part there. So when someone has a question about your faith, or god forbid actually QUESTIONS your faith, its bating/tweaking? The fact that i might actually want to know how you came to your conclusion that anything possible does not conflict with genesis couldnt POSSIBLY be the reason I asked, could it?

And you STILL havent answered yet.

It's more the fact that I read every one of your posts with a shouting voice in my head, and it fits! You're throwing demands, not asking sincere questions. Jesus sometimes responded with utter silence, for instance to some of Pontius Pilate's questions. Another occasion was: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger" (John 8:3-6).

He eventually did answer them. But other times, when the Pharisees asked him questions, with the express purpose of trying to trap him, rather than genuinely seeking answers, he did not answer their questions, but responded indirectly, because of their deceitful hearts.

And you're erroneously assuming that I owe you unlimited answerings to insincere, boorish questions. If you want the answers, look them up. You know where: Genesis, and any of several Christian commentaries on that book. I have told you all you need to know from me.

Except I'm asking for YOUR opinions and beliefs, based on YOUR understanding of the scriptures etc. Not a random selection of academic's views. Feel free to not answer or answer as you see fit, but common politeness (something I'm sure is a reasonably christian thing) suggests that if you are going to make statements, you br prepared to have them questioned, queried, and think of reasoned responses, rather than making fatuous assumptions about a persons goals or character based on some imagined tone of voice. (In itself a fairly futile concept, given the site you are posting on. Correct tonal usage (or lack of it) is an Aspergers "foible."

As for your WWJD response.. sounds awfully similar to the art of spin employed by contemporary politicians, when asked a question they cannot, or will not answer.

Though I am interested. What was His final response to the question of stoning an adulterous woman? How would YOU have responded to that question, it apparently being a straightforward legal query?

I think one part of the answer is in one of Ragtime's previous posts in this thread:


If you add the assumption that God never misleads, it follows that there can't be a real conflict. An apparent conflict through lack of understanding is still possible under these assumptions.

Ragtime, what do you do if your best interpretation of scripture and the best available scientific understanding are in conflict? If you assume that the conflict must be caused by some error in understanding, you still don't know whether the error is in the science or in your interpretation of scripture. (You may object to the word "interpretation". What you call literal reading with understanding of context is interpretation to me. Can we avoid getting sidetracked on that point?)

You are human and you can make mistakes, like the rest of us. You said so yourself. So if you find a conflict between well established scientific opinion and your interpretation of the bible, what do you do?

Gromit

As you'd probably imagine, it depends.

If you're asking whether I sometimes change my opinion of what a Bible verse means, yes, on further education, I do.