13 Aug 2007, 7:20 pm
That stuff that Hadron posted, obviously used by anti-gay groups to attack them, but I really don't know the truth nature of that statistical thing, or what Kurt Freund really tried to do, I just know he did make a study about sexual orientation.
I also notice that the statistic is outdated, it is from the 1980's, so today it wouldn't mean a thing actually. Sorry Hadron.
It's curious that I found something about Freund on wikipedia, and that makes me wonder about the statistical stuff actually 
Quote:
His empirical data also showed some of the first evidence that sexual orientation conversion therapy was generally futile. He demonstrated that even homosexually oriented men who appeared to have given up sexual relations with other men and established heterosexual marriages were still aroused by images of men rather than women. He also challenged contemporary psychoanalytic theories of homosexuality that suggested it was due to a fear or aversion to women; instead, his objective measures showed that homosexual men simply lacked erotic interest in females. Based on these studies, he advocated the decriminalization of homosexuality in Czechoslovakia (which took place in 1961) and the end of conversion therapy. These opinions also put him out of favor with the psychoanalytically dominated psychiatric establishment in Toronto, as he continued to argue that homosexuals needed understanding and acceptance rather than treatment.
Sedaka
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,597
Location: In the recesses of my mind
13 Aug 2007, 8:10 pm
13 Aug 2007, 8:12 pm
13 Aug 2007, 8:12 pm
13 Aug 2007, 8:15 pm
13 Aug 2007, 8:16 pm
Sedaka
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,597
Location: In the recesses of my mind
13 Aug 2007, 9:50 pm
13 Aug 2007, 10:23 pm
14 Aug 2007, 2:45 am
14 Aug 2007, 6:33 pm
Sedaka wrote:
you seem to be held together with silly string and chewing gum....
I actually like this definition.
I had to go back and quote it. You're starting to understand me.Sedaka wrote:
it's obvious you use a lot of imagination in anything you do... as you have a transient grasp on reality
Again, thank you! The world is always surreal from my perspective -- like I'm swooping down on it and back up into the sky. That's why I never took mind-altering drugs as a teen -- my brain alters itself continually. Can be both fun and dangerous...
But such transient perspectives help me greatly in my creative thought process, such as when writing music. I can look at or listen to something stupidly-simple a thousand times, and experience it differently every time. I also play the same songs over and over on the piano, but improvise changes every time.
As a child, I played the same record over and over for years. And now I have it on my ipod, and it's STILL new and alive to me!
Of course, it also means I shift in and out of personalities, even though they're all connected by a thread of awareness.
