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I came here hoping to find a place to safely discuss womens issues and the entire thread is consumed with men vying to have their egos soothed (venting sorry). I believe many many men have valid opinions and can be appropriate I experienced this tonight on on the wrongplanet alt chat . Men claiming to be restraining themselves from behaving badly took the conversation to the adult room then as soon as a serious subject (abuse) came up all were gentlemen and i was quite impressed with their respect of boundaries. If you are capable of this you are welcome to respond to me but otherwise I would like to further discuss making this a safe and primarily self identified female discussion place , it is desperately needed.

No one is perfect, but I'm sure most of the Aspie males are willing to be careful and respectful when very sensitive topics are touched. I'm sure I would....

This forum is for the discussion of women's issues; if a poster requests that a thread's responses be from women only, by and large that request is respected. The moderation team does work with those posting here to ensure a safe haven - but that does not mean that men are excluded from this forum or unable to post. If you are seeking a site as you describe above, you may wish to look at alternatives such aspergersgirl and others, although I do not know that you will find exactly what you are looking for. If you have a concern about a member posting in here, please contact a moderator - do not opt to engage and create drama in the forums. Thank you.


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[quote="makuranososhi"]This forum is for the discussion of women's issues; if a poster requests that a thread's responses be from women only, by and large that request is respected. /quote]

Why? Why not have a similar option for men? Why this blatant discrimination of men in favor of women?

It really sickens me how men are constantly discriminated in the name of "women's rights".

If the single women here have any bloody sense they'll be reading what men's problems are and vice versa. The answer is generally in the middle. Some of the fellas might even be able to help with the non-bodily issues.

Salon, if you'll read back:

There was a Men's Discussion. The decision was made to dissolve it, with most posts relevant to men getting split between Love & Dating, InDepth Adult Discussion, and Adult Autism Issues. There is a sticky in the In-Depth forum for men's issues, but there has never been cause or sufficient demand to consider bringing the forum back. There are myriad places here for men; the question I have is why you are threatened by the existence of a forum for women...?


M.

I am not threatened by the existence of a forum for women. I simply feel unjustly treated when a woman can decide to have my posts deleted if she feels uncomfortably with it just because this happens to be a woman's section, whereas men have no such option anywhere on this forum. It's discriminatory and offensive to men ! ! ! !

i agree with solonfilsoof that its sexist (not sure if i spelt it right(not sure if i spel anything right)) anyway... it is sexist.

the entirety of the wrong planet discussions are open to all genders , is it possible to respect this one place ?

Pardon? Where you get the impression that a woman can decide to delete your post? The only individuals that can remove a post are the members of the moderation team. Under the rules and ToS agreed to upon signing up, you agree that those moderators can remove, redact or edit your post if it does not comply with the site's rules. So if a post is inappropriate, and/or is complained about, then it will be addressed accordingly.

What discussion do you have that you cannot bring up in one of the existing forums? This subject has come up repeatedly, and the answer has remained the same - it was tried, was not considered effective, and was dissolved between three other subforums. I'm male, and I'm not offended by this space for women... and I can't find a reason to be. If men were forbidden to participate, I could see more of an argument, but that is not the case - the male members have a responsibility to post and respond appropriately in the Women's Discussion forum, that is all.

mushroom, while I appreciate your concern, this forum has functioned well for quite some time. If you have issues, please contact a moderator. However, it is somewhat disconcerting when a new member starts complaining about something they have not thoroughly tried at this point.


M.

You said : "This forum is for the discussion of women's issues; if a poster requests that a thread's responses be from women only, by and large that request is respected. " This implies that they can have posts by men deleted (or not allowed) just because they are men. That's incredibly sexist and I find that very offensive as a man.



If I'm interested in topic in the "Women's Discussion", I don't see why I should not be allowed to reply to that topic just because the person who started that thread doesn't want men to reply. Unless men have a similar option in a similar sub-forum (thus unless men have equal rights) that's incredibly sexist and I feel offended for being considered not able to provide any output as valuable as that of the women responding just because I have a penis instead of a pair of breasts.



You said : "This forum is for the discussion of women's issues; if a poster requests that a thread's responses be from women only, by and large that request is respected. "

Maybe I interpret this wrong. What did you mean when you wrote down those words?

There has been a misunderstanding; when I refer to an individual requesting that only women reply to their post, my intent was showing that by and large, the men on WP have been respectful of that request. If there is disruptive posting by males in the Women's Discussion forum, those posts are generally either removed, or at times have been moved as a separate discussion into another subforum. There is no rule forbidding men from posting in this area, but there is a definite expectation of respect and being aware of appropriate behavior. If you look at the thread within this subforum, you will note that there are some with that heading "[given subject] - women only" or "[given subject] - seeking female input" as examples of members using that sort of direct communication to indicate to others clearly their desires and intent. While that does not forbid one from posting, it should certainly serve as a reminder and reason for thought before a gentleman adds his thoughts to that particular conversation, especially when one expressly makes that request.


M.

Then tell us what you would consider disruptive or inappropriate and why men don't have a similar option to have only men respond to their threads if they feel the need for it.... Whether or not there's a rule explicitly forbidding men to respond to certain threads, it still is very sexist. It still offends me that my gender is relevant to whether my response to a thread is accepted or not, whereas this is never the case for women.

Basically, if women have a "women only" option, men should have a "men only" option. Otherwise, it's better to abandon the "women only" option altogether and not to use gender as a criterium anywhere..... Giving women special privileges does not constitute equality but creates rather anti-male sexist sentiment.

Salon, if you choose to be discontent, you will be, It has been explained that there was a Men's Discussion that was dissolved; that this happened before your time, or mine, it not something that is within your control. Men can request that women not respond (examples of this exist in L&D), but again this is not an absolute rule but a request. To suggest that there is an anti-male sexist sentiment on WP, however... is beyond my comprehension, given what I have observed here. Your input is noted. If the environment is too intolerable for you, I can only suggest that you look at alternative forums to participate in, or perhaps creating your own so that it matches your desires.

As for disruptive or inappropriate: read the site's rules. That should give you a starting point for expectations.


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Yes I am am new poster but that makes my opinion no less valid than that of a vetran or moderator my goal is not to cause "drama" or confrontation I was simply jarred and disappointed by entering a womans forum and finding it dominated by men I have been quite balanced in my posts I am choosing not to be offensive as it is not productive (despite what i desire to say) . While SOME of the male responses to valid concerns women are posting are juvenile and disturbing I am not interested in tattling to moderators as you suggest that is for the poster to do , this is a discussion I will post a response if i desire . makuranososhi I greatly appreciate your relevant commentary and responding to these posters that are in my opinion simply seeking attention and feel that you and a few others bring valid and relevant points to the womens discussion I hope others can follow your example or take this to the mens thread in the adult discussion. I am not going to respond further to this thread just work on helping myself and others in more productive discussions.