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30 Sep 2007, 4:49 pm

Long story short, we've been on two dates. He's hugged me goodnight after both. I'd really be wanting a kiss, but we've met halfway both times because I felt bad with him driving through traffic to pick me up. He's currently sort of deployed, coming back in the next few days (he's only been gone a few weeks) and told me he's looking forward to seeing me when he's back in town.

Ok, so why isn't he kissing me goodnight? Of course I'm terrible at picking up on signals and I can't figure this guy out. Making the first move probably isn't an option because I am so bad at reading whether a guy wants it or not. He's never had a girlfriend, so this is just a bad and confusing situation all the way around. Need advice. Help.



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30 Sep 2007, 4:52 pm

You're going on dates... the dates have continued... I'd say he likes you.

Just too nervous to actually kiss you. Probably doesn't know you are expecting it.

And if you aren't expecting it... that's a big kind of problem there for the guy...isn't it... :?:

If a woman kisses a man, I very much doubt the guy is going to have much of a problem...


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30 Sep 2007, 4:54 pm

All guys are different. Mine didn't kiss me until we'd been on several dates. I just let him decide when he was ready for it (he also hadn't had a girlfriend before so he was probably not as comfortable with it). After the fifth or six date, he gave me my birthday present, and then kissed me :D It was sweet and I'm glad I waited on him to make the move.


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30 Sep 2007, 4:55 pm

i'm 16, possibly aspie, and i completely ruined my first relationship because I was insensitive.
However, I think the 'He's never had a girlfriend' means that he wants to, but he's too shy and/or inexperienced.
I was like that.
I sound like an agony aunt :(



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30 Sep 2007, 4:57 pm

Dating is an expression of interest .



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30 Sep 2007, 5:06 pm

Sounds like he is a gentleman who doesnt want you to think he is only after one thing like most men are.

I bet if when you next say good night, if you close your eyes and pucker your lips, you will find a gentle kiss placed upon them



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30 Sep 2007, 5:19 pm

Pugly wrote:

If a woman kisses a man, I very much doubt the guy is going to have much of a problem...


And if he does, he just doesn't want it.



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30 Sep 2007, 5:20 pm

So I guess next date I have to let him drive across town to pick me up, just so we can say goodnight at my front door and not in a parking lot?



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30 Sep 2007, 5:27 pm

Got something against parking lots?
Or park benches? Why make it a
GOODBYE kiss, anyhow?



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30 Sep 2007, 5:29 pm

star1215 wrote:
So I guess next date I have to let him drive across town to pick me up, just so we can say goodnight at my front door and not in a parking lot?

Yes, definitely. I have studied NTs and their mysterious ways for 35 years now, and learned from past mistakes. You need to make the guy work a tiny bit. I don't mean play total games out of The Rules or something, and you don't have to play hard to get, but be a valuable woman that he needs to drive all the way across town to pick up.
I have the same instincts you seem to--I always want to be a super nice friendly girl and stuff. But if a guy likes you, he would drive across a STATE to pick you up, and be happy to do it. ( for a little while at the beginning at least, hehe)
And yeah, he might not want to kiss for the first time in a parking lot.



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30 Sep 2007, 5:35 pm

calandale wrote:
Got something against parking lots?
Or park benches? Why make it a
GOODBYE kiss, anyhow?


Easy. He's an Air Force Reserve pilot, also a pilot in his civilian job, so when we say goodbye, it's usually got a longer time than most people and who knows when we'll see each other again.

And *I* don't have anything against parking lots, in general, but since I haven't kissed anyone in four years, I think I'd feel more comfortable someplace people weren't staring.



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30 Sep 2007, 5:37 pm

EMM wrote:
star1215 wrote:
But if a guy likes you, he would drive across a STATE to pick you up, and be happy to do it. .

See, I'm not sure about that. We're still in such an early stage that I don't want him to think a relationship with me will be a huge hassle. Especially when he's usually only in town for one night and sitting in traffic is probably the last thing he wants to do (we have bad traffic here!). But he did offer before our last date to pick me up, so if he offers again, I'll take him up on it.



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30 Sep 2007, 5:39 pm

I guess I was referring to,
why stop with a kiss? :P



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30 Sep 2007, 5:49 pm

calandale wrote:
I guess I was referring to,
why stop with a kiss? :P


Hahaha. There IS a reason for that, believe it or not.



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30 Sep 2007, 6:27 pm

Especially in the parking lot. :P



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30 Sep 2007, 10:21 pm

star1215 wrote:
EMM wrote:
star1215 wrote:
But if a guy likes you, he would drive across a STATE to pick you up, and be happy to do it. .

See, I'm not sure about that. We're still in such an early stage that I don't want him to think a relationship with me will be a huge hassle. Especially when he's usually only in town for one night and sitting in traffic is probably the last thing he wants to do (we have bad traffic here!). But he did offer before our last date to pick me up, so if he offers again, I'll take him up on it.


Oh, I know, I was exagerrating a bit there, and certainly didn't mean you should be a pain in the neck. But across town to pick you up should be no problem.