There are two ways to argue with people.

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Triangular_Trees
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05 Nov 2007, 12:20 am

Sorenzo wrote:
Actually, being quite an expert arguer myself from years and years of observation and practice...

There are two kinds of arguing. One is rational arguing, another is irrational arguing.

Arguments differ from discussions in that they are not usually planned or have a specific purpose (they might start spontaneously or through an interpersonal understanding and not have a specific topic or purpose, whereas discussions are often used to define, spread, and add to the opinions of wilfull participants).

Irrational arguing is any argument that uses false arguments, manipulation, mind games, or tricks. It rarely has the truth as a goal, and the arguing parties will not show if they realize they are mistaken and will counterattack if accused of misleading the opponent. This often causes physical or emotional aggressiveness.

Rational arguing is an argument that is partaken in or guided by one or more people who wish for the argument to be rational. In a rational argument, false arguments are ignored and manipulation is not allowed. The purpose of the argument is to find the truth of whatever matter the topic is. If either party realizes a mistake, they will accept that and argue on another point or use a better argument.

The reason irrational arguing finds place is because people are irrational until taught not to be. And in some cases, because it's more fun.


You just had to argue you his point to prove him wrong didn't you :wink:



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05 Nov 2007, 12:30 am

Sorenzo wrote:
Rational arguing is an argument that is partaken in or guided by one or more people who wish for the argument to be rational. In a rational argument, false arguments are ignored and manipulation is not allowed. The purpose of the argument is to find the truth of whatever matter the topic is. If either party realizes a mistake, they will accept that and argue on another point or use a better argument.


Thats basically how I "argue" with people in most environments (and then they start being irrational and it just ruins my day)