California overturned gay-marriage ban today!

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Awesomelyglorious
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23 May 2008, 7:07 pm

oscuria wrote:
Ha, our major difference is how we look at society (being that you don't believe in one--IIRC).

True.



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23 May 2008, 7:11 pm

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the proper practice? marriage has changed a lot over the existence of it...i have no idea where you get this impression of there being some kind of establishment that's beyond change.

and again, you fear change.

and i find it very ironic you're discussing civil rights in a thread about granting civil rights to a portion of the population that is currently being denied theirs on an arbitrary basis.



How has it changed? The only thing were that aspects were changed but the fundamentals weren't.


Funny, is there any change that you fear? Or are you brave to face the winds of change?


It is not ironic. A person cannot change his color, neither can he change his sexuality. None of these have anything to do with marriage which is between a man and a woman.



up until about 40 or so years ago, it was illegal for people of different races to get married. previously, endogamy was the trend and culture and still remnants of it are alive and kicking today though no longer in the court system...just in people's personal bigotry.



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23 May 2008, 7:27 pm

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up until about 40 or so years ago, it was illegal for people of different races to get married. previously, endogamy was the trend and culture and still remnants of it are alive and kicking today though no longer in the court system...just in people's personal bigotry.


I already addressed that. It had more to do with racism, bigotry, superiority, than it had to do with marriage. Besides it had to do with the status of a slave child.


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25 May 2008, 6:59 am

I think this song is appropriate here...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9Arlvdeg8[/youtube]

Mew - She Spider

After we go to sleep
Our sun rises...
I will make it the truth.
Oh, painfully helping me
Cover up things I wish I never had felt

Confident!
Tangled up in a nice life
Put the spider in you
Watching in disregard
You live a nice life
With the spider in you

I save myself for someone somewhere's sweet caress
Something goes wrong
And all I sought was happiness.

Confident!
Tangled up in a nice life
Put the spider in you
Watching in disregard
You live a nice life
With the spider in you

I save myself for someone somewhere's sweet caress
Something goes wrong
And all I sought was happiness
And so in right-wing fashion
we'll nurture xenophobia and be strong
In right-wing fashion
With haste and generosity
Because no-one is safe from someone somewhere's sweet embrace
And so I have simply decided to dislike you now


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