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09 Nov 2005, 5:02 pm

Yep. Including lots of obscure stuff that would take me a long time to list. Back in my teenage years I'd go to House Of Guitars in my neighborhood -- really legendary music and record store in Rochester New York -- and there would be tons of old punk and post-punk records for dirt cheap. I still have some of those records and I'll bet most of them are rare by now...



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09 Nov 2005, 5:04 pm

Fogman wrote:
Lets not forget these either:

Pere Ubu, Sonic Youth,Chrome, Bauhaus, Rank and File, Butthole Surfers, Lydia Lunch, PIL, and Killing Joke


Lydia Lunch is from my town.



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09 Nov 2005, 5:10 pm

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emo originated as "emotional hardcore" from the 80s.

oops.


It was originally 'emocore' and had nothing to do with what's called 'emo' now. Back in the mid-80s when I still went to hardcore-punk shows, you had 'emocore' which was supposed to be a slower, more musical and emotional version of straight-edge style hardcore punk. The best of those at that time was Soulside -- I think some ex-members later formed Girls Vs Boys or something.

I don't understand where this 'emo' came from, but most of it sounds to me like watered-down Green Day. And I never liked Green Day anyways!



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09 Nov 2005, 5:14 pm

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I know, but it's just a group of whiney, middle class, teenagers who cry because their dad won't buy a car for them, or they can't into the pants of some girl at school.
Post-Punk, is typically less abrasive than punk. It strikes me as a much more insular movement than punk, as it spilt in to factions.
You can take the musical ecleticism of bands such as The Fall, New Order, and The Cure as prime examples.
There has been a revival in all that is post-punk with bands such as The Futerheads and Franzferdinand.
I insist that you purchase the following albums if your interested in how these bands sound like they do; Joydivision 'Unknown Pleasures', Orange Juice 'The Glasgow School', The Cure 'Boys Don't Cry', and The Talking Heads 'Fear of Music'.
I'm pretty sure most would agree these are fundamental examples of this genre.
As I've probable said this was pretty much a British movement.


But don't forget my turf had Pere Ubu, Talking Heads (who you've mentioned), Tuxedomoon, Television, Sonic Youth, Big Black to name a few...



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09 Nov 2005, 5:19 pm

Fogman wrote:
ramsamsam wrote:
I know, but it's just a group of whiney, middle class, teenagers who cry because their dad won't buy a car for them, or they can't into the pants of some girl at school.
Post-Punk, is typically less abrasive than punk. It strikes me as a much more insular movement than punk, as it spilt in to factions.
You can take the musical ecleticism of bands such as The Fall, New Order, and The Cure as prime examples.
There has been a revival in all that is post-punk with bands such as The Futerheads and Franzferdinand.
I insist that you purchase the following albums if your interested in how these bands sound like they do; Joydivision 'Unknown Pleasures', Orange Juice 'The Glasgow School', The Cure 'Boys Don't Cry', and The Talking Heads 'Fear of Music'.
I'm pretty sure most would agree these are fundamental examples of this genre.
As I've probable said this was pretty much a British movement.



The British 'Post Punk' scene was pretty much that, but the American answer was usually more inclined to experiment a bit more, and as a result were more 'Art Damaged'. Bands like Smegma and Pere Ubu, (who actually predate the '77 punk explosion) as well as Monitor, Chrome, Half Japanese, the Bush Tetras, Butthole Surfers, Mission of Burma, and Sonic Youth spring to mind.


Smegma --AHA! They're still around, and should be playing the No Fun Fest in NYC next year. So my friends in the local music scene tell me...



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10 Nov 2005, 6:31 am

Bands like The Talking Heads and Television I would say were initially New Wave bands.



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11 Nov 2005, 4:33 pm

The Cure



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11 Nov 2005, 7:13 pm

The Killers is post-punk, isn't it?


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11 Nov 2005, 8:52 pm

are the cure post punk? cause i dont really concider them that



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12 Nov 2005, 2:37 am

well the good emo bands that i have heard are the likes of Rites Of Spring, Saetia, Jawbreaker, Swing Kids, and Indian Summer. for screamo, i really like Circle Takes The Square, although that's more experimental. also Nevea Tears.



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01 Nov 2017, 6:13 am

ramsamsam wrote:
The Cure 'Boys Don't Cry'

Indeed. What the Three Imaginary Boys album should've been. Another post-punk album I'd recommend is Magazine's 1978 debut Real Life.



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01 Nov 2017, 10:19 am

IsthmusWithTrolleybuses wrote:
ramsamsam wrote:
The Cure 'Boys Don't Cry'

Indeed. What the Three Imaginary Boys album should've been. Another post-punk album I'd recommend is Magazine's 1978 debut Real Life.


Magazine were fabulous. So were these groups.









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01 Nov 2017, 1:54 pm

Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco are punk, right? Or are they too mainstream to be punk?



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02 Nov 2017, 3:50 pm

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