the all-purpose Sarah Palin thread

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Well, have we lost this thread? Or is she wearing even us out? A lot of comments have become kind of general political mash and I'm guilty of that, and now we even have some warhawk or other (I can't believe there are so many on this site, really, you don't think Republicans like those who are different, do you?) suggesting Israel ought to 'sneak' and bomb Iran real quick while nobody is noticing. AS If . Dontcha think Iran would be pissed. Like they would just ignore it! Oh Come on. And you're ignoring the fact that this is actually not a good idea and that bombings, war, and casualties create far more problems than they solve obviously.

But to bring this back to old Scary Palin from anyone wanting to hijack this thread there's an article in LATimes today about scary Wasilla. That one was humorous. Apparently, it's an eyesore, full of uncontrolled city development that essentially turned their two lakes, Wasilla and Lucille, into dead lakes. Details on the dead lakes (Palin lives on one of them.) are on Salon.com for anybody interested in reading too much, like me. Dead lakes have no oxygen in water and cannot support fish life as they are so damaged by pollution from Wasilla.

You can argue that she is the most wonderful thing ever, but the facts exist as to what she has said and done as mayor and as governor, including fostering friendships with people she needed to get elected and then dumping them as soon as she did not need them, which point to her being opportunistic and slick, instead of capable and responsible.

You can argue that she is not evil and that we're all picking on her because we're sexist, but actually, I think I deserve better representation from a woman or anyone else running for office. It is not sexist to expect any female politician representing my country to be the best mind available for the job, but she is not it.

There are tremendously more astute, smarter, more informed people in government who are women, and some who are even Republican, who would be better positioned to serve the country. you can argue that she is charismatic, and there you are unfortunately correct. I don't get it but a lot of people go for that kind of empty leadership. (No Obama is not empty leadership. He's a good guy smarter than most of the population and he deserves to be heard and understood as a reasonable, calm and capable leader who is responsible. Before you say he isn't you're going to have to clear the slate of so many other politicians with dirty little fingers, including McCain -- remember the Keating 5? Better look it up, because that debacle McCain got away with paints him in a more genuine light than anything else I can think of. And before you talk experience and leadership, try not to mention that McSomebody who tanked 3 fighter planes during war time and graduated at the bottom of his class at the naval academy. How many homes does it take to make a bumbling senator look foolish?)

It is a fact Palin did not, while running for governor, participate in many forums meant to educate citizens about her stand on issues because she wanted to avoid the fact that she has no stand on any issues, and got away in debates by witticisms meant to be answers. She has almost zero stand on any issues because she does not run on them, she runs on personality. She's very good with people and very astute at turning a situation to her advantage. And no, to answer the conservative voices, this is not 'dirt' being dug up on her. It's the way she is. Either you like it or you don't, that she can run people, the issues, and the political climate until she has completely pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes about the fact that she just is not that capable, and has been proven to have little grasp on the workings of government both as mayor and governor by people who have worked with her in both capacities (and these are comments from those who like her).

But even people who like her ought to be reading up on the way Alaskans respond to her (over 1500 people demonstrating against her when she returned to Alaska after the conventions) and also about how they blog about her, the sarcasm of peope who feel like they've been burned. they do know her best. I hope they know her last.

Looking at the list, it's pretty apparent that, as I mentioned in my post, we have had only one Catholic president, who broke a lot of rules getting himself elected because people of Protestant faith, as enumerated in your list, did not at the time vote for Catholics. Protestant, that is, as again defined by the list above, and there are even more variations, but they are ALL basically Protestant faiths. In other words, they do not follow the teachings of the Pope or see the Pope as a churchleader. They all have differences between them, except for the fact they do not follow the Pope. You can even look it up in the dictionary. A Protestant is one who is "a Christian NOT of the Catholic or Eastern church." And I guarantee you America has never voted for a Greek (or Bulgarian or Russian) Orthodox president. (That is what is meant by Eastern church.)

So when I say they were all Protestant, I was correct, although I'm not tooting my own horn, it's just what the dominant faith was, or maybe still is. A baptist is a protestant, so is Methodist, so is a Lutheran, and a Presbyterian. They protested against the Roman Catholic church, led by a monk named Martin Luther in the 16th century, demanding an end to certain Catholic practices, and instead what they got was a brand new religion: Protestanism. Of course, this led to a lot of burnings and flaying of heretics, but eventually the Protestants got established and then expanded into many different branches, some of them on your list.[/quote]

You are correct, many of these would be considered Protestant. However, Unitarians and Deists, are the very liberal outer edge of Christianity. And as I remember, being Atheist isn't even Christian.

Regarding my supposed war-mongering for advocating a strike on Iran's nuclear sites: I think it might be ok if it were perfectly surgical, because when I think of another country surgically hitting only America's nuclear sites, with no civilian casualties, I don't feel too perturbed about it (assuming, of course, that it wasn't preparatory for an invasion - I'm not saying that it would be ok to invade Iran, whether we'd taken out their nuclear capability or not). We have too god damn many nukes in this world, and getting rid of ours is just as valid as getting rid of theirs.

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http://www.slate.com/id/2201332/

Sarah Palin's College Daze.

...and, here are some samples of Sarah Palin's poetry. Isn't she an ispiration?

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"On Good and Evil"

It is obvious to me
Who the good guys are in this one
And who the bad guys are.
The bad guys are the ones
Who say Israel is a stinking corpse,
And should be wiped off
The face of the earth.

That's not a good guy.

(To K. Couric, CBS News, Sept. 25, 2008)




"You Can't Blink"

You can't blink.
You have to be wired
In a way of being
So committed to the mission,

The mission that we're on,
Reform of this country,
And victory in the war,
You can't blink.

So I didn't blink.

(To C. Gibson, ABC News, Sept. 11, 2008)


"Haiku"

These corporations.
Today it was AIG,
Important call, there.

(To S. Hannity, Fox News, Sept. 18, 2008)


"Befoulers of the Verbiage"

It was an unfair attack on the verbiage
That Senator McCain chose to use,
Because the fundamentals,
As he was having to explain afterwards,
He means our workforce.
He means the ingenuity of the American.
And of course that is strong,
And that is the foundation of our economy.
So that was an unfair attack there,
Again based on verbiage.

(To S. Hannity, Fox News, Sept. 18, 2008)


"Secret Conversation"

I asked President Karzai:

"Is that what you are seeking, also?
"That strategy that has worked in Iraq?
"That John McCain had pushed for?
"More troops?
"A counterinsurgency strategy?"

And he said, "Yes."

(To K. Couric, CBS News, Sept. 25, 2008)


"Outside"

I am a Washington outsider.
I mean,
Look at where you are.
I'm a Washington outsider.

I do not have those allegiances
To the power brokers,
To the lobbyists.
We need someone like that.

(To C. Gibson, ABC News, Sept. 11, 2008)

"On the Bailout"

Ultimately,
What the bailout does
Is help those who are concerned
About the health care reform
That is needed
To help shore up our economy,
Helping the—
It's got to be all about job creation, too.

Shoring up our economy
And putting it back on the right track.
So health care reform
And reducing taxes
And reining in spending
Has got to accompany tax reductions
And tax relief for Americans.
And trade.

We've got to see trade
As opportunity
Not as a competitive, scary thing.
But one in five jobs
Being created in the trade sector today,
We've got to look at that
As more opportunity.
All those things.

Challenge to a Cynic"

You are a cynic.
Because show me where
I have ever said
That there's absolute proof
That nothing that man
Has ever conducted
Or engaged in,
Has had any effect,
Or no effect,
On climate change.

(To C. Gibson, ABC News, Sept. 11, 2008)




"On Reporters"

It's funny that
A comment like that
Was kinda made to,
I don't know,
You know ...

Reporters.

(To K. Couric, CBS News, Sept. 25, 2008)




"Small Mayors"

You know,
Small mayors,
Mayors of small towns—
Quote, unquote—
They're on the front lines.

Panda-
separating your comments by line, into prose-poetry, does not make them any deeper.

Oh yes they do. I
often separate my lines
like that for Haiku.

It makes me appear
so clever and deep. Now I
think I'll go to sleep.

Sarah Palin has become famous here in France now, she is a good comedian. Her interview was shown on French television (subtitled) where she describing her considerable foreign affairs experience - watching planes flying from Russia from her home in Alaska. She had everyone in the television studio in hysterics laughing at her.

Is she as popular as Jerry Lewis?

In the USA, I think that most of us were more inclined to cry than to laugh. But, yeah, maybe she can join the comedy circuit in France.

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I have no memory of this thread. I was being kind of an ass

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