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paolo
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10 Oct 2008, 5:59 am

Packages have sometimes a warning “up” “down” “fragile” . Nothing like that with people. If somebody is ASD there is no warning “treat with care”. Even if ADS people went around with a badge “Asperger”, “autistic” nobody would understand what it is about: a veteran, a party member, a soccer club fan? Only the ignoble yellow star in the Nazi era, or the white cane of a blind man (why I never saw a blind woman with a white cane?) may associate the person with a status and with a behavior to be kept.
I am in favor of the badge for ASD people, but it wouldn’t be enough . People may have understood something what being a Jew was in a Nazi state, people understands what a blind man is, and may help a blind man to know where a step is. Not much more.
If we establish that people unable to be a cog in productive machine must perish or be eliminated it’s all right. But this must be said in plain speech, not the perfunctory statement that there must be some form of assistance, not much more that they shouldn’t be thrown off the cliff (sometimes this would be better than a nursery home).
But productive of what? Berettas, missiles, PR, snake oil, credit recovering, porn, advertising, SUVs, plain s**t of various brands?
This for now.
Third day of mourning, and atrocious suffering.


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10 Oct 2008, 10:21 am

Interesting thoughts.

I'm thinking, if only a certain person I know had came with such a label. I could have been saved a lot of grief and frustration in understanding him and what his interactions with me meant.

But, then, on the other hand, if I'd've know enough back then to understand such a label, I'm thinking I wouldn't have actually needed it. I would have known to think to myself, maybe this person doesn't think like most folks, maybe this person doesn't interact socially like most folks.



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11 Oct 2008, 3:56 am

you sound hot, ive got a package for you

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11 Oct 2008, 3:48 pm

paolo wrote:
Packages have sometimes a warning “up” “down” “fragile” . Nothing like that with people. If somebody is ASD there is no warning “treat with care”. Even if ADS people went around with a badge “Asperger”, “autistic” nobody would understand what it is about: a veteran, a party member, a soccer club fan? Only the ignoble yellow star in the Nazi era, or the white cane of a blind man (why I never saw a blind woman with a white cane?) may associate the person with a status and with a behavior to be kept.
I am in favor of the badge for ASD people, but it wouldn’t be enough . People may have understood something what being a Jew was in a Nazi state, people understands what a blind man is, and may help a blind man to know where a step is. Not much more.
If we establish that people unable to be a cog in productive machine must perish or be eliminated it’s all right. But this must be said in plain speech, not the perfunctory statement that there must be some form of assistance, not much more that they shouldn’t be thrown off the cliff (sometimes this would be better than a nursery home).
But productive of what? Berettas, missiles, PR, snake oil, credit recovering, porn, advertising, SUVs, plain sh** of various brands?
This for now.
Third day of mourning, and atrocious suffering.


oh, Paolo, my heart aches for you. How do I share your suffering so by sharing it, it becomes less? But we each suffer on our own, don't we. I send you much caring and kindness, cara.

Merle