NLD Information and Support Thread

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I got diagnosed in my fifties after another job failure. Other than knowing what it is that's been causing me to be a failure almost all the time, and the combined anxiety, I cannot find a therapist worth a flip. They've all heard of it, but are clueless in how to treat it. Very frustrating.

According to Inderbir Kaur Sandhu, Ph.D

Usually when a discrepancy of at least 12 points is found between the VIQ & PIQ, the Full Scale IQ score should be interpreted cautiously. Even though the verbal-performance discrepancy is not used to directly diagnose a learning disability, it is like a red flag – it alert parents and teachers to the child's strengths and weaknesses. Therefore, a full analysis of the individual subtests that comprise each score should be looked at and if scatter is very large, it warrants further investigation.

Research has indicated that a discrepancy towards verbal (VIQ > PIQ) has also been linked with Asperger's syndrome but not with other pervasive developmental disorders. Relatively low VIQ has been considered an indicator of dyslexia and relatively low PIQ of dyspraxia. Studies have also suggested that hyperactivity in children is associated with relatively low performance IQ. In more recent studies, it is found that there is a high degree of individual and familial comorbidity between these three disorders.

My psychologist said the same thing. When there's such a discrepancy between the VIQ & PIQ it is very difficult to accurately determine the Full Scale IQ. I completely understand what he's saying. However, I still can't seem to get past the 80 full scale IQ. Based on the Barona Equation ( which uses demographics and education to predict IQ) my IQ should be 117. My psychologist recently diagnosed me with agoraphobia, dysthymia (chronic depression) and dyspraxia. All coexisting with my NLD.

The difference between mine is 48 points. The more points the more screwed?

The difference between by VIQ and PIQ is 36 points.

I'm not diagnosed with either ASD or NVLD. I seem to have ASD traits but think I fit NVLD better.

Social interaction problems.

Have difficulty with small talk and initiating conversations.

Only couple of friends in 3D over 55 years

Much better verbally than non-verbally/spatially

Not good at constructional tasks. Can't do jigsaws meant for children.

Started doing well academically but gradual decline starting at 9.5

Had to have handwriting lessons.

Bad at sports especially gymnastics.

Have difficulty when it comes to organising and planning(Executive functioning deficits)

Messy and untidy

Poor sense of direction

Not good in crowds as difficulty judging distances and get overwhelmed by the toing and froing

Poor? balance was nearly 14 before i managed to ride a bike.

Poor drawing skills.

Struggle with change.

General anxiety

social anxiety

depression

mood swings

paranoid thinking

I wonder why this thread died?

I made a few posts years ago. I just came back and read the thread again and found it interesting and helpful.

I'm 71 now. I was really lucky all my life and managed to find jobs, survive and have been happily retired since age 60.

I was never cut out for this world and certainly not for the working world, but I survived by faking a lot of things and excelling at a few......which is incredibly painful, stressful and exhausting.

So happy in retirement. I never should have been required to work.

My formula for the working world........if you can fake a lot of things and excel at a few......you may survive (but it has a cost).

I was diagnosed with NLD and I fit the criteria perfectly, such as bring rubbish at maths, poor motor skills and co ordination, sense of direction, depression and anxiety. However, unlike most of those with NLD I had speech therapy as a child and I am not an auditory person at all apart from the fact i love music and i can memorise lyrics but I struggle to take in verbal information and instructions. So I don't know whether NLD and AS are just the same thing or I have both conditions?

The standard belief is that those with NLD are much better verbally than non verbally. I wonder how many like me however have difficulty taking in spoken information and instructions. This is a test of how fast you can process spoken information http://fastlistener.labinthewild.org/

My listening rate is 14/100 which is equal to 11% of the population.