72-year old woman gives birth
An 18 year old is NOT grim reaper proof. I look at the probabililty. What is the probability that someone who is 18 when their child is born will be alive when the child becomes 18? Extremely likely. What is the probability that someone who is currently 72 will be alive in 18 years time? Unlikely, specially in a developing nation like India (I'm not intending any racism, me being of South Asian origin myself).
As for you mentioning that 72 year old man sailing the sea, have you heard of the 14 year old boy who sailed solo across the Atlantic ocean (last year I think, or earlier this year)? But anyway I don't want to dwell on exceptional, individual cases and I don't want to go off on a tangent, as we are looking at the majority of 72 year olds who are fit who are both physically and mentally capable of being parents, and is likely to live long enough until the child reaches adulthood. Just because a . Just because a very few number of old individuals are capable of amazing feats, does not make the majority of 72 year old fit for being parents.
You are using the fact that there are a few exceptional cases to say that a 72 year old is fit to be a parent.
You also talk like a 72 year old has the same chance of surviving for another 18 years compared with an 18 year old living for another 18 years.
Do you think it is completely ok to risk having a child while being almost certain that the child will become an orphan? Or is it that you don't care if the child becomes an orphan? As you mentioned earlier:
And you have also ignored most of what I've mentioned in my past few posts, just making random comments trying to pick out flaws in my posts.
What is your point anyway? You haven't actually made a clear point.
WHats wrong with not caring if a 72 year old reproduces?
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The parents are more likely to die than survive before the child grows up. Hence the most likely possibility is the children becoming orphans. I have already mentioned that earlier on, and you seem to have missed the point.
So it's about the likelihood of the children becoming orphans or having to look after their parents (i.e. not being able to have an education). I have already mentioned both. It's not about the parents reproducing.
Do you see nothing wrong with the children being faced with a bleak future?
Of course there are exceptional cases as you mentioned, where a few 72 year olds would be physically strong enough to live past the age of 90. But because of a small minority, I don't want to risk innocent children having to endure intense suffering.
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An 18 year old is NOT grim reaper proof. I look at the probabililty. What is the probability that someone who is 18 when their child is born will be alive when the child becomes 18? Extremely likely. What is the probability that someone who is currently 72 will be alive in 18 years time? Unlikely, specially in a developing nation like India (I'm not intending any racism, me being of South Asian origin myself).
As for you mentioning that 72 year old man sailing the sea, have you heard of the 14 year old boy who sailed solo across the Atlantic ocean (last year I think, or earlier this year)? But anyway I don't want to dwell on exceptional, individual cases and I don't want to go off on a tangent, as we are looking at the majority of 72 year olds who are fit who are both physically and mentally capable of being parents, and is likely to live long enough until the child reaches adulthood. Just because a . Just because a very few number of old individuals are capable of amazing feats, does not make the majority of 72 year old fit for being parents.
You are using the fact that there are a few exceptional cases to say that a 72 year old is fit to be a parent.
You also seem to think that a 72 year old has the same chance of surviving for another 18 years compared with an 18 year old living for another 18 years.
Do you think it is completely ok to risk having a child while being almost certain that the child will become an orphan?
What is your point anyway? You haven't actually made a clear point.
which is why ot breaks down at the individualist level so i am being realstic, If I am in the minortiy, I wuill not put my self to the imitiatsuions of the majority . Same chancer, did I ever say thaty?I rarely mean more then what I exatvly says. Sarcasm of cvorse not counting. I think Its is ok to live your life and not the life others incest you have
I agree with you that it is ok to live your life and not the life that others insist you have. But When you have someone else's life in your hands it's a different story. It is not ok to live your life in such a way that would have a negative impact on someone else's life, in this case, the child. Then it's no longer just your life that's taken into consideration. So I'm talking about the child's life. The way that the parents choose to live would most likely result in the child having a horrible childhood and upbringing, if they have a child at the age of 72. A child does not deserve to be an orphan.
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Would there be as much of a negative reaction as the 72 year old that got pregnant?
It happens. The life expectancy is usually better for a young mother than an old one.
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^Yeah if the child knows what they're getting into once they've had their baby.
I'm not really saying the 72 year old did the right thing but there does seem to be a lot of negative reactions to this old lady on the thread.
I just find it a bit humorous, that's all.
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It is very rare for a 72 year old to have babies, in fact it reminds me of when Betty McCloud in the girl who could fly had piper at an age which is not considered young anymore. I can’t believe aborting female fetuses is legal while aborting males fetuses is illegal, feels like gender inequality. I also think that if you are going to have children then it should only be because you want them, and you want someone to love.
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