"I pledge" Obama support?

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oh ok... i still don't get the comparison. Is Kevin Rudd the PM that was Dubya's lap dog or was it the guy before him? tony blair for example, was dubya's pet poodle and i know some australiam PM was dubya's lap dog. Which is kind of worse than being dubya's pet poodle.

why does australia still have the british flag on part of their flag?

You're joking, right?
The British flag is just to symbolize Australia is part of the commonwealth!
What's that got to do with anything?
Obama is America's version of Kevin Rudd - trying to please popular opinion, etc.

TwoShots, what do you mean "you don't know America"?
Yeah, sure... Despite the fact that my mother is American, my ancestors founded the country,
the extended network of friends and family within the nation, and all that?
Bragging about the GDP and population of New York? Classy. Guess you conveniently ignored
the concepts of quantity and quality, eh?
"Inferiority complex"?! Dammit, why do you feel the need to invent something as stupid as that?! Are you trying to be offensive?!
Why the hell would anyone feel "inferior" to a country that just happens to be more populous with a bigger economy?!
China and Japan both have more GDP than Australia, and larger populations, too! Yet, nobody seems to be making accusations about that...?
Why feel "inferior" to a nation with half the minimum wage, a massive homeless problem, history of human rights issues, limited public healthcare, cannon fodder military tactics, that has succesfully alienated most of it's allies?
Tell me - what natural resources does New York export?
What? None! Wait - you mean, it's GDP is entirely based on it being an international trading hub supported by a solid urban population one can find in any megacity? Gasp!
Hey, maybe now you can tell me which nations have the fastest growing economies in the western world? No? Well, here's a hint: Not America!
Stop making up "inferiority complex" crap. Most western nations are better off for the individual than in America; and economists and businessmen aren't going to feel "inferior" about trade and business opportunities with a large nation!
Now, go hump a flag-post and get your little amerigasm out of your system.
GDP and population aren't all a country (or megacity) is! They are not static figures!
Please, do more than just read the statistical blurb on a wikipedia page!

No, I wasn't joking. Australia is a sovereign country, correct? Fully Independent of the UK? It seems kind of silly to have another country's flag on Australia flag. I was just wondering why Australia would have still have the UK flag on its flag.

It kind of implies that Australia is not sovereign from the UK. Anyways, I was just wondering if you knew. I assume you don't really know the reason why your country has another country's flag on it.


nothing, other than you may not even know yourself.

So, what your saying is Kevin Rudd is Australia version of Obama?
Obama only been in office for about a month. This Kevin Rudd fellow has been in office for a year. Obama hasn't really done too much yet or has even had the chance to. Other then nominating corrupt politicians that believe they don't have to pay taxes.


What you wrote above is funny. LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ LOZLLZOLZOZLZLZOLZ Sorry

I'm American, and I want a puke bag.

When she said "I pledge to be a servant to our president" at the end, it kinda freaked me out. That is really, really cultish sounding.

dokken, the British flag in the corner isn't a watermark to signify "property of England".
The British offices in Australian government are purely ceremonial.
Why do you not realize this yourself? The American flag's colours are based off of those of the British flag!
It only signify's where we came from; not that we are still part of that country.

Why do you assume I don't know?
Why was my statement about the American side of my family "funny"?

Thing is Twoshots, if the marketers and celebrities involved in this did not think that it would strike a chord with a large % of Americans they would not have done it. So the conclusion must be that a large % of your compatriots must be f**kwits

I agree. This is proto-fascistic crap, just like JFK: "Ahhhhsk not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

The last thing Americans need is to bow down before anyone or anything.

ruveyn

Which doesn't imply a firm grasp of the national psyche.

I'm not bragging, I'm pointing out that quite frankly there are good reasons why America has greater significance than e.g. Australia. America commands large sections of the worlds economy, so get a serious metric other than some vague "quality" thing.

Not trying to be offensive, but I don't particularly see the relevance in pointing out that your country has any significance at all outside of that context. I'm not implying you *ought* to have one or you have any good reason to have one, but people talk about their countries vs. America that just screams "we feel ignored".

I don't know, you tell me.

Because few Western countries perceive those two to be their cultural and political rivals as they do America from what I gather.

I dunno, maybe it's the readiness with which you go shooting off a tirade about its problems that gets me suspicious. Sounds defensive.

There's more to life than natural resources.

See above. You can have all the resources you want, but simply put you're not even in the running with the small oil exporters in terms of significance at the moment.

That's true, but not really my point.

That seems to have very little impact on how they perceive their national significance, shockingly enough.

Who says I have an "amerigasm"? You're completely misreading a simple critique of your pro Australia comments, which you've colored by your preconceptions about how I, as an American, must think.

They're a pretty big freaking component, actually, if you want to measure "global significance", because they indicate the amount of economic activity and the size of the markets, and military potential. You're intentionally skewing how you measure significance to downplay the USA

Chill out or f**k off.

Fine, twoshots, I opt for "chill out".
But, that comment about oil is erroneus. Australia produces large quantities.
In a planet of more than 200 countries, being about 13th most powerful with 16th largest economy, major control of world resources and one of the highest economic growth rates with only a population of 20 million is not something to be ignored.
You do know Australian currency is the sixth most traded in the world?
This is because of volatile foreign economies and heavy trade exports centering on the Australian Market system.
GDP does not play much more of a role than a scoring system when there is more than one super-power. In laymens terms, in the present, if the US Market collapses - as it has - Australia's currency becomes "bouyant", as the price of resources is reduced following the change of value of the unofficial world standard currency.
However, in the coming decades, nations equal to or greater than the US in economic terms take the place of the collapsed US Market; buying resources that are unaffordable in the US.
Which may alter production capabilities, which may further restrict economic growth.
It's not just possessing resources, but the active import/export.
Which is why say, Japan, with few resources, is an economically powerful nation.
But, Japan isn't a super-power; it's markets would not be as competitive as between super-powers.
In the end, it is all about the resources, and who can actually afford them.
If the value of currency changes, and there is a suitable competitor, that money - no matter how much is had - becomes worthless.

Im Christian so all this Obama fervour makes me rather ill from that standpoint, but even if I wasn't it would still gag me. Actually it scare me...I saw a pic of an Obama manaquin riding on a donkey. Is it only me, but is this all becoming to strange for words?

I don't understand - what does Christianity have to do with it?

Second.

Please don't tell me you actually believe that he's some sort of Islamic terrorist or sympathizer.

TANGENT!

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Got panned when it came out. I thought it was funny

Maybe it'll seem more pertinent now...

I meant that he has reached godlike status and may have the ego to match. And I am creeped out by the fact that the likeness is riding a donkey just as Jesus did millenia ago.