This is a relatively long post. Just so you do not have to look, I am a male, and according to my tests, I test about 1/2 way between AS & NT on the tests that I have taken. According to the relative lengths of my 2nd & 4th finger (search 2D 4D digit ratio) I was exposed to less testosterone in the womb. There are a lot of ways that this can affect one, in my case it made me not so much less masculine, as more androgynous. I like to think of it as not suffering from testosterone poisoning.
Anyway, all these characteristics have made my what I am. Many years ago I was involved in a project that resulted in my meeting the woman with whom I have spend the last 25 or so years, and with whom I have a 20 year old son, You can see that project, which I am attempting to launch here: internetsocialregistry.com
It is not yet really live, but you can pretend to sign up so that you can explore it and comment. I am mentioning it, so that you will understand why I have spent a lot of time exploring all things male, female and in between.
The following is, as best as can be determined, information that can be verified, and not refuted.
It carries not moral connotations, nor is it meant to carry any values of right or wrong,. It is meant to be a description of the physical world
1. Nature can not be fooled.
2. We are the product of millions of years of evolution.
3. If something has been around for a long time, then it probably serves to enhance the survival of the species.
4. 3. is a statement of probabilities. Survival is a function of the environment, so if the environment changes, a characteristic that helped organisms survive may now be superfluous, or even harmful.
5. Nature is not wasteful. If something is present, then it does, or at least at one time did serve some purpose associated with enhanced survival of the species. This is what evolution is about.
6. A womans clitoris has about --- well let me quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoris
The tip or glans of the clitoris alone has more than 8,000 sensory nerve endings, more than any other part of the human body.[7]
7. Nature is Not wasteful. If one can think of a reason for having all those nerve endings in the area where sexual intercourse takes place that has anything other than giving a women a very strong reason to engage in sexual intercourse, I am open to hearing that theory. Putting it another way, nature really wired women to really enjoy sex, probably more than a man. This makes sense since women who have more sex are likely to have more children. Women who do not like sex to the extent that they avoid it will not be likely to pass that trait onto their non existent offspring.
8. Nature has no standards, no goals. She just keeps rolling the genetic dice, and sometimes comes up snake-eyes. That is the genes combine to make something that dies, or can nor or will not reproduce.
9. Women were build to really really like sex. If you wish to see some evidence of this, then I suggest that you visit [link removed by hyperlexian. too adult for the women's forum]
I realize that the stories there are entirely from females who have self selected, but I still think that they are an accurate indication of womens sexuality, and their enjoyment of that sexuality.
Now, having laid out these points of verifiable information I think that one can conclude the following:
From the standpoint of reproduction, nature can make errors. That is, organisms that are not likely to reproduce. Those organisms can be asexual, homosexual, genetic errors, such as an XY in a womans body. This link is to a photo of men. Yep, every one of the persons in this photo are genetically XY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orchids01.JPG . They have a condition called androgen insensitivity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orchids01.JPG
Further, peoples brains are set to enjoy different things, and to naturally be happier or not so happy. Again, nature rolls the dice.
At this point, it is clear that many people posting here are not only not following natures reproductive "plan" but that they are also unhappy. The fact that one is not following natures plan, like homosexuals, does not mean that one must be unhappy. The people in the photo seemed happy. Certainly some of them seemed to be smiling with their eyes which one can not fake.
I am not going to tell you how to "fix nature" That is, I am not about to tell you the equivalent of going from gay to straight. I am going to suggest some ideas about becoming happy with sex --- or at least happy without it.
So ... here are some things to consider.
1. Is there any chance that your mental attitude is not how nature made you but the result of how you were raised, or from abuse?
2. Did nature put you into the wrong kind of body? That is, do you think that you are a boy trapped in a boys body or visa versa?
3. Do you just not like your body? Again do you think that this is how nature made you or was your family seriously screwed up? There is, for example something called Apotemnophilia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia
a neurological disorder in which otherwise sane and rational individuals express a strong and specific desire for the amputation of a healthy limb or limbs.
I mention ther three items above as ways of possibly understanding the problem of ones unhappiness. There may be other possible causes of the situation. The point is, the if one does not accurately understand the cause of a problem, one is unlikely to fix it. Sometimes a professional can help finding the cause. If you are working or have worked with a professional, and did not get satisfactory results, then find another professional.
I can tell you from direct experience that getting a certificate of completion of course work from a medical institution does NOT guarantee competency.
Another suggestion. One can always choose to look on the behavior of another in relation to ones self in a negative way. If someone is so intent on "giving you pleasure" that they are no longer seeing you as a unique human, but as some sort of project, then is this really a problem? Why? Really, what does it mean to "be really seen as a unique human?" If someone is trying to make you happy, cut them some slack. If they bang your nose while kissing, do not think that it was a deliberate head butt, but an accident.
Some mention was made of bodily fluids, and contact in general being yucky. Why? It is possible that nature made an error in your wiring, but it is more likely that this attitude resulted from a household environment. If you want human contact and interaction, you will either have to find someone else with the same attitudes, --- possible but not easy --- and I need to add some questions to my question set addressing that --- or you will want to address the problem. My guess is that long term happiness will more likely result in re-learning to like bodily contact and body fluids, or to at least not find them discusting.
Well, that is it --- all 1200 words. I hope that some here found it useful
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You can fool people, but nature can not be fooled
02 Aug 2010, 2:54 am
