Two points of view: examining life and living life.

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21 Mar 2009, 12:45 am

Two points of view: examining life and living life. Which do you spend more time in? What are the costs of one versus the other?

And yes - its possible to live through examination, but is that living through examination, the same as just living? I don't think so.



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21 Mar 2009, 12:56 am

I examine life.

Examining can lack the high returns found in living and it also does not provide experiential knowledge. Living is riskier and it does not provide analytical knowledge.

A person who values higher returns or experiences will live more. A person who is risk averse or analytically oriented will prefer examination.

Perhaps other values will be found, or someone has a bit of data that refutes my scheme, but it seems like this idea could be useful to certain conceptual frameworks.



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21 Mar 2009, 1:07 am

I examine life. I tend to be very analytical.


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21 Mar 2009, 5:58 am

solinoure wrote:
Two points of view: examining life and living life. Which do you spend more time in? What are the costs of one versus the other?

And yes - its possible to live through examination, but is that living through examination, the same as just living? I don't think so.


How about both, with a cutoff for high risk?

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21 Mar 2009, 7:03 am

solinoure wrote:
Two points of view: examining life and living life. Which do you spend more time in? What are the costs of one versus the other?


i examine the life that i am presently living. i can not examine what i have not lived.
i do not care for the outcome of my examination, i just examine for the sake of examining.
i do not often self reflect, as i already know what i am, and i do not have to calculate it.
i do not examine how i feel, i examine what i see. and i see from the standpoint of being alive (for the moment).

you can not have one without the other.
they are mutually inclusive.



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21 Mar 2009, 7:10 am

I do both, perhaps slightly different to most people. Loosely speaking I'm a Buddhist, so examine my own life in depth, the sense of "I" or "me", examining my motivations, mind, feelings and behaviour quite deeply, but not just from an intellectual point of view but rather by actually looking using meditation as a tool. "Mindfullness" in the Buddhist jargon.


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21 Mar 2009, 8:41 am

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21 Mar 2009, 8:43 am

Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?



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21 Mar 2009, 9:17 am

Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


i would prefer to be a monkey who lives in reality, than a groundless cerebral notion that is blown this way and that at the slightest doubt.

automatic doubt is the paranoid realm of the unsettled.



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21 Mar 2009, 12:11 pm

Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?

Monkeys also nourish themselves with food and water. Do we want to be like monkeys?


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21 Mar 2009, 1:39 pm

Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?



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21 Mar 2009, 2:26 pm

Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?


Because I don't eat my own s**t, have sex in plain view or throw stones at people.



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21 Mar 2009, 2:30 pm

Zyborg wrote:
Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?


Because I don't eat my own sh**, have sex in plain view or throw stones at people.


Ah but do your throw sh** at others, eat stones and watch others having sex? :P :wink:


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21 Mar 2009, 2:34 pm

Zyborg wrote:
Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?


Because I don't eat my own sh**, have sex in plain view or throw stones at people.


But people do eat the most awful crap, finance the porno and prostitution industry to the tune of billions and routinely shoot and blow up each other far beyond the habits of other types of monkeys. Do you base your superiority on that?



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21 Mar 2009, 2:38 pm

Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?


Because I don't eat my own sh**, have sex in plain view or throw stones at people.


But people do eat the most awful crap, finance the porno and prostitution industry to the tune of billions and routinely shoot and blow up each other far beyond the habits of other types of monkeys. Do you base your superiority on that?


I am Aspergian. Not neurotypical.



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21 Mar 2009, 2:42 pm

Zyborg wrote:
Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Sand wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Examine life is superior to live life.

Monkey live life. Do we want to be monkeys?


Why are you so sure you're not?


Because I don't eat my own sh**, have sex in plain view or throw stones at people.


But people do eat the most awful crap, finance the porno and prostitution industry to the tune of billions and routinely shoot and blow up each other far beyond the habits of other types of monkeys. Do you base your superiority on that?


I am Aspergian. Not neurotypical.


Aha. I see. A superior type primate beyond good and evil.