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27 Mar 2009, 7:48 pm

http://www.archive.org/details/BattleOfRussiaI

Old American Propaganda film about bravery of Soviet Russian soldiers. Very interesting film.



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27 Mar 2009, 7:52 pm

Good find. "The bravery of Soviet Army" haha this just proves that the Red Scare and the anti-Soviet propaganda was BS. As soon as USSR fell, the Soviet enemy changed to the terroris enemy. Same game. Same BS.


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27 Mar 2009, 8:27 pm

http://www.archive.org/details/BattleOfRussiaII

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27 Mar 2009, 11:53 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
Good find. "The bravery of Soviet Army" haha this just proves that the Red Scare and the anti-Soviet propaganda was BS. As soon as USSR fell, the Soviet enemy changed to the terroris enemy. Same game. Same BS.

The Soviets were an ally until the iron curtain fell and the cold war began, the US supplied the Red Army with equipment. At The Tehran Conference (1943), Joseph Stalin, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill met together, planning a strategy to end WWII.
After it was decided The Soviet Union would get eastern Europe, people wanted to leave and measures were taken to prevent this. Thus began the anti Soviet propaganda, when it became clear people would not be allowed to freely travel. The Red Scare was about the fear communism would spread and the threat of a nuclear war with The Soviet Union.



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28 Mar 2009, 11:09 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Learning2Survive wrote:
Good find. "The bravery of Soviet Army" haha this just proves that the Red Scare and the anti-Soviet propaganda was BS. As soon as USSR fell, the Soviet enemy changed to the terroris enemy. Same game. Same BS.

The Soviets were an ally until the iron curtain fell and the cold war began, the US supplied the Red Army with equipment. At The Tehran Conference (1943), Joseph Stalin, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill met together, planning a strategy to end WWII.
After it was decided The Soviet Union would get eastern Europe, people wanted to leave and measures were taken to prevent this. Thus began the anti Soviet propaganda, when it became clear people would not be allowed to freely travel. The Red Scare was about the fear communism would spread and the threat of a nuclear war with The Soviet Union.


yea and then the U.S. wiped out the Vietnamese with agent orange and cluster bombs, burned their villages and turned a million Vietnamese women into prostitutes. history makes no sense. just a bunch of fat bastards in the government and business world sharing the pie which is the planet Earth.


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29 Mar 2009, 4:09 am

Different Subject same issue (sort of)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyb9_oW6Oig[/youtube]


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29 Mar 2009, 9:56 am

Zyborg wrote:
http://www.archive.org/details/BattleOfRussiaI

Old American Propaganda film about bravery of Soviet Russian soldiers. Very interesting film.


That is classical American agitprop. Hollywood can make Stalin's Commies seem like the epitome of virtue. Hollywood was rife with left wingers, pinks, and outright commies in those days. They were all useful idiots (as Lenin would say).

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30 Mar 2009, 5:35 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

After it was decided The Soviet Union would get eastern Europe, people wanted to leave and measures were taken to prevent this. Thus began the anti Soviet propaganda, when it became clear people would not be allowed to freely travel. The Red Scare was about the fear communism would spread and the threat of a nuclear war with The Soviet Union.


Actually the Americans were actively involved in these measures. They took part in the forced "repatriation" of Russians around Europe (some of whom were citizens of other countries by this time), probably knowing full well that "repatriation" actually meant the refugees would be either executed or sent to the gulags.



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30 Mar 2009, 10:11 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
http://www.archive.org/details/BattleOfRussiaI

Old American Propaganda film about bravery of Soviet Russian soldiers. Very interesting film.


That is classical American agitprop. Hollywood can make Stalin's Commies seem like the epitome of virtue. Hollywood was rife with left wingers, pinks, and outright commies in those days. They were all useful idiots (as Lenin would say).

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