Down with labeling people!
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"Symptoms" of my inherited personality and how others have treated me.
Not in my case.
Treatment of my supposed AS involved me mitigating the effects of my personality.
Some of my confidence, spontaneity and creativity may have been lost too. That's the gift of being oblivious. Now I'm afraid to say anything in case it offends anyone.
The people who treated me viewed AS as a negative thing that had to be eliminated from my system. I don't believe that they even considered the possibility that it was actually me being me. There wasn't some ordinary child trapped inside. When I said I was bored and fed up...I really was bored and fed up. They never even considered that the teaching methods or the crowded environment might have been at fault.
Honestly, if I were in charge, I'd get the name syndrome changed to variant. So the name would be "Aspergers Variant". I'd change a lot of things over to "Variant". It's a less stigmatising word and a bit more accurate (for milder cases anyway).
The word syndrome just wants to make me break down in tears because I remember how I was treated so negatively.
I'd accept the term "Aspergers Variant Individual"
I'd say: "I'm an Aspergers Variant Individual"
If it could be objectively and medically proved beyond all reasonable doubt and there was no danger of me being ostracised.
The words "have" and "with" are misleading.
It's not an add on. I am what I am. I think what I think and I perceive how I perceive.
Actually thinking about it...perhaps most of the time I'd like to be known by my actual name, not the "woman with".
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Not in my case.
Treatment of my supposed AS involved me mitigating the effects of my personality.
That is actually what I meant; the effects of the syndrome are, in fact, your personality. Or, I should say rather that they are core to your developing personality (depending on your stage of development).
I think you object to it being called a syndrome like I object to it being called a disorder. Variant is a fantastic word, and I think it reflects the way I feel, too.
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Alright, I admit my initial reasoning was too shallow. I failed to recognise that labels can invariably change and are never completely accurate, but as much as I try I, personally, can't justify labeling myself.
I view labels as something to make sense of the exterior world, not my inner world as it's a contant flow that will never slow enough for me to make a reliable label that fits for long.
As such I accept labels placed on me by others, as they represent the way the world sees me. I don't always like or agree with them, but I accept them and process these labels to see if I really do recognise myself in them. Depending on the outcome I can then choose to try to alter these aspects of myself or I come to the conclusion that the label holds no truth but that it is still a representation of how I present myself to others.
I don't know, I've always been laidback about this stuff.
Yeah, heaven forbid that someone should actually be allowed to be happy living their own introverted life the way they themselves (such as me) choose to! Why can't these "experts" realise that not all of have that need? These "experts" with all their education should surely be the first to know how different people are. Sadly they aren't. It's scary that people with so little insight to the human diversity (neurologically and otherwise) have so much power over others. Grrrr....
Yeah, heaven forbid that someone should actually be allowed to be happy living their own introverted life the way they themselves (such as me) choose to! Why can't these "experts" realise that not all of have that need? These "experts" with all their education should surely be the first to know how different people are. Sadly they aren't. It's scary that people with so little insight to the human diversity (neurologically and otherwise) have so much power over others. Grrrr....
In the case of Gillberg I think he has personal issues and a need to play God, some sort of severe complex. He takes it out by dictating the lives of people with AS. When he started the revival of AS in Sweden no one else was even interested and for a long time he had a complete monopoly. If you study Gillberg a little you will see I'm right. The man has some serious issues and found a way to play God and rule over the lives of countless others.
Let me say this:
The length of my life does not mean a thing to me. Only the quality of it. I also have no fear of death. I ultimatly choose to live, and I do desire to see where my life goes. But you better damn well stay clear of me, and not interfere with the direction my life is headed, unless I invite you to. Labels? Bah.... I only need them when I have a medical cndition I need treating for. And speaking of that, I need to go get checked for siezures, as I suspect that I have experienced absence siezures in the past, and can confirm one incident, although the doc won't find that out till after I get checked out.
Alrighty, so I've come up with a theory.
None of you really hate the labels. You hate the enforcement of the labels, you hate people forcibly pushing their views of how they percieve you and trying to make you become this non-existant entity.
Don't hate the labels people, labels are your friends. Pushy douchebags, however, are the real enemies.
Yeah, heaven forbid that someone should actually be allowed to be happy living their own introverted life the way they themselves (such as me) choose to! Why can't these "experts" realise that not all of have that need? These "experts" with all their education should surely be the first to know how different people are. Sadly they aren't. It's scary that people with so little insight to the human diversity (neurologically and otherwise) have so much power over others. Grrrr....
In the case of Gillberg I think he has personal issues and a need to play God, some sort of severe complex. He takes it out by dictating the lives of people with AS. When he started the revival of AS in Sweden no one else was even interested and for a long time he had a complete monopoly. If you study Gillberg a little you will see I'm right. The man has some serious issues and found a way to play God and rule over the lives of countless others.
I know you are right. I have read one book by him and that was more than enough to see him for what he is. I have never read anyone so seemingly biased against the people he is supposed to be helping.
Also, as a transexual, I can't get any form of treatment to help me without a diagnosis of my transexuality... Where I am, I need to be diagnosed GID to go anywhere with it... And that is not a diagnosis people necessarily like giving, and a lot of the times the doctors will try to focus on anything but gender issues... So, without that label, I am essentially screwed. Labels... They can be good, or bad... it just depends on how they are used.
It's just that some people with AS aren't happy living that way. They want jobs, marriages, careers, parties, families.
I know what you mean, tho. I would love it if society said "Yeah we know this is just the way you are and we are gonna leave you alone and let you be true to yourself." even if being yourself means not dealing with "them".
Sadly it is still viewed as wrong to be gay, bi, les, trans, antisocial, irrationally fearful, self absorbed, intellectually inferior, etc. in most of the world. Then we have the parts of the world, and groups that believe it is morally wrong to have a particular faith, skin tone, belief system, etc. And there is more.... Why can't people just care more about being themselves, and stop worrying about who everyone else is trying to be?
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None of you really hate the labels. You hate the enforcement of the labels, you hate people forcibly pushing their views of how they percieve you and trying to make you become this non-existant entity.
That's at the heart of what I meant by "Down with Labeling People."
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None of you really hate the labels. You hate the enforcement of the labels, you hate people forcibly pushing their views of how they percieve you and trying to make you become this non-existant entity.
That's at the heart of what I meant by "Down with Labeling People."
Then stop picking on the labels. They've done nothing to you
Sadly it is still viewed as wrong to be gay, bi, les, trans, antisocial, irrationally fearful, self absorbed, intellectually inferior, etc. in most of the world. Then we have the parts of the world, and groups that believe it is morally wrong to have a particular faith, skin tone, belief system, etc. And there is more.... Why can't people just care more about being themselves, and stop worrying about who everyone else is trying to be?
I mentioned Christopher Gillberg for those who want the support system. It's supposed to benefit Aspies who are trying to earn a living. Sometimes it's hard to stay employed because confidence is lacking and a support group can make a difference. It can mean staying at a job or quitting for some. It's for adult Aspies since many people complain everything is geared toward youth. The support system isn't.
I wasn't implying anyone should change who they are if they don't wanna. I know there's things about myself I am very stubborn about and feel resentful when pressured about changing them so I would never tell someone to try to be an extrovert if they were happy being an introvert.
It would be easier if people would stop worrying about who others are, I agree. Far easier for me but I am pretty much convinced that's just a utopian dream. I doubt human nature is going to change that much in my lifetime so I have my fantasies about living in an imaginary Utopia instead
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