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Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murders

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murders Reply with quote

Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similair people call for a ban on sharp kitchen knives to stop stabbings. What they dont account for is that it would just result in a rise in people being bludgeoned, if someone is determined to hurt another they will find a means.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murder Reply with quote

jrknothead wrote:
Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.


With all these determined criminals running around, the law needs to be even more determined! You think we should give up having gun laws because a few no-gooders manage to get their grubby paws on firearms? Having No Gun Laws Whatsoever is not the solution, here. I detest that attitude.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

n4mwd wrote:
Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.


Dox47, you are aware that sock-puppeting is against WrongPlanet rules, no?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murder Reply with quote

jrknothead wrote:
Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.


strictest gun laws when a 5 year18mnt old brother with a gun in the head i dont think so old girl shoots he
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murder Reply with quote

Joeygeorge wrote:
5 year18mnt old


78 month old,
1 year 66 month old,
2 year 54 month old,
3 year 42 month old,
4 year 30 month old,
5 year 18 month old,
6 year 6 month old,
7 year minus 6 month old,
8 year minus 18 month old,
9 year minus 30 month old,
10 year minus 42 month old,
11 year minus 54 month old,
12 year minus 66 month old,
13 year minus 78 month old...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slowmutant wrote:
n4mwd wrote:
Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.


Dox47, you are aware that sock-puppeting is against WrongPlanet rules, no?


You did notice that he has a higher post count than me, right? Besides, I thought you were my sock puppet, you make all those poor arguments that are so easily knocked down, it saves me the effort.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're greasy enough to wiggle out of my arguments, Dox. You don't knock them down as much as you sleaze right through them with that silver tongue of yours.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slowmutant wrote:
You're greasy enough to wiggle out of my arguments, Dox. You don't knock them down as much as you sleaze right through them with that silver tongue of yours.


I can't decide if this is a complement or not, but being the good Christian that you are, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll also save time by summarizing your arguments, as they are quite familiar to me by now.

You'll try to establish a causal link between guns and violence, probably using the phrase "guns kill people", or some variation there of.

You'll argue that more restrictive laws will be effective in preventing access to guns by criminals.

You'll simply ignore every counter-argument made to your posts, and repeat yourself ad-naseum, and perhaps quote some scripture.

Did I miss anything?
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