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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:30 am Post subject:
By your specific information I assume you have dated a few female Neanderthal football players. Tackling ostriches and penguins might be practical since bipeds can be thrown off balance but a smilodon is a bit more stable and unlikely to be successfully tackled.
Tackling a mammoth is certainly a challenge and if not indicative of Neanderthal intellect it certainly indicates feistiness.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:53 am Post subject:
I apologize for the language. No animals were harmed in the making of this film.
Now, would we see aliens granted evolution and its timeline is reality? It would require some type of FTL travel, but lets assume that's not impossible. _________________ Don't look back, because infinity is waiting.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:10 am Post subject:
Sorry, Iamnotaparakeet, I have linguistic interpretation difficulties, and no idea what you mean. _________________ Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:28 am Post subject:
Ishmael wrote:
Sorry, Iamnotaparakeet, I have linguistic interpretation difficulties, and no idea what you mean.
Ok, would extraterrestrials be a certainty given that evolution is true?
If so, lets assume they or some of them have developed some kind of "faster-than-light"
mode of transportation.
Next, if they could come here, then what is stopping them from leaving a tangible presence? _________________ Don't look back, because infinity is waiting.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:55 am Post subject:
Time, chance and reason.
Star systems close to ours are not much younger or older than ours (in astronomical terms).
Rarely does intelligent life evolve; and only under harsh conditions - whether environmental, or to outsmart prey or predator. Third; this is a crappy, primitive little backwater - if FTL has been invented by alien sentient, why would they come here, and how would they even know we exist? _________________ Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:04 am Post subject:
Ishmael wrote:
Rarely does intelligent life evolve;
Drake equation probability, or how would you know this?
Ishmael wrote:
how would they even know we exist?
Aside from the radio signals which would go out for at least a 70 lightyear radius, even we are detecting exosolar planets and there would be no reason to think that if another intelligence existed that they wouldn't be able to detect us or compute probable locations of life. This presumes that life can develop from pure chemistry though, which isn't a certainty in my book. _________________ Don't look back, because infinity is waiting.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:25 am Post subject:
I would agree. Recent advances in detection of extra-solar planets invalidates the drake equation(which was silly in the first place). _________________ davidred writes...
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:25 am Post subject:
Actually, rareity of sentient life is based on my own theories of survival necessity. By observing events and probabilities, it can be identified that most worlds fall under, again in astronomical terms, "stable" events - stability produces slow evolution, and barring severe biological competition (as we cannot begin to detect such things yet, it's an uncertain thing), "survival of the fittest" doesn't come into play when a stable environment doesn't bring such situations. Conjecture and theory, of course, based upon what limited information we can discover for the time.
As for how they'd know where here; 70 lightyears, by reckoning of probability, would only just be far enough for minimal awareness... Ifthey could conceivably not have their own interests or problems, interpret the signals as being from unidemtified aliens, or even care to - after all, advanced technology is no guarantee of advanced culture. Besides which; earliest signals sent haven't yet reached as far as the theorized "bubbles" of probable sentient regions. There's a thirty second gap between earth and moon alone!
I believe in the existence of sentient alien life, but only under mathematic principals. It's impossible for only humans to be sentient, as impossible as it would be for just one sun. _________________ Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:32 am Post subject:
Just to clarify - my iPhone doesn't let me use edit, for some reason - I know drake is bollocks. My principals are similar, granted, but account for far more variables than that rubbish - to say the least!
You don't always have to rely ok others processes. _________________ Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:17 am Post subject:
If Earth is typical and the way humans are treating it is standard intelligence seems to guarantee that life will develop powers it cannot control and within a mere thousand years of technical development it will self destruct.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:22 am Post subject:
Sand wrote:
If Earth is typical and the way humans are treating it is standard intelligence seems to guarantee that life will develop powers it cannot control and within a mere thousand years of technical development it will self destruct.
Right. So, we're all dead now? _________________ Don't look back, because infinity is waiting.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:25 am Post subject:
Sand wrote:
If Earth is typical and the way humans are treating it is standard intelligence seems to guarantee that life will develop powers it cannot control and within a mere thousand years of technical development it will self destruct.
Actually, Earth would be quite typical, considering the theorized chemicals for biological catalyst and principles of physics governing worlds. But, that's an interesting point - Ive even read it in science fiction by Brian Aldiss. Even if civilizations of alien sentients would rise, what is the guarantee they would not fall? _________________ Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?
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