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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Evolution selected socialism

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 6:44 pm 

Replies: 49
Views: 3,758


There are certain minimum necessities that each human requires to maintain life which should be provided by society no matter the contributions of the individual. Beyond that a more generous society would provide further minimums to encourage individual development of individual inherent possibiliti...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: A Book You Can Trust

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 6:01 pm 

Replies: 126
Views: 6,631


Very nice to hear and see philosophical and scientific replies, but personally I read the bible (and many other publications) simply as a guide to help me in living a full and satisfying life. Whether certain facts are historically correct is of no consequence to me personally. There are just too m...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: So let us try again with an actual concept

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 5:54 pm 

Replies: 21
Views: 2,045


arrogant much? so if there is no evidence that he took a nap, he didnt? but if there is a god and there is no evidence there is a god, there is? It is not arrogance ro recognize an insincere and / or ignorant heckler who like the LA idiot has chosen to latch onto me. There is no evidence IN THE TEX...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: So let us try again with an actual concept

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 12:29 pm 

Replies: 21
Views: 2,045


Certainly God COULD perform the equivalent of taking a nap, a break, a siesta, a vacation - the more so since outside time it would not affect the process. My point - which as usual, not having the resources of a first language speaker of American English, you fail to grasp - is that the text does ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Heliocentrism: Teach the controversy

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 10:18 am 

Replies: 54
Views: 4,056


Actually, if someone were to take the time to review the flaws in Galileo's ideas, I figure it would be a cinch to put him in the same boat with Darwin, who presented the world with a good but flawed and incomplete notion of human origins. By juxtaposing them with each other, it would very well be ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Richard Dawkings shunned by fellow atheists/skeptics

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 10:16 am 

Replies: 51
Views: 3,314


I wonder if a Christian might consider a Buddhist movement atheistic since they seem to have no god. It's a pretty messy idea. By certain definitions, one could. All social concepts, like movements etc, suffer from incomplete definitions that are prone to exceptions. Trivializing the language, does...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: So let us try again with an actual concept

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 9:56 am 

Replies: 21
Views: 2,045


"I taught them, rising up early and teaching them" What? Is God complaining that he got up early? God sleeps? Rising up from whence? Linguistics helps here. You need to understand how certain languages. Think English - "So he up and says to the Chairman, 'That proposal is just silly" That up in the...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: A Book You Can Trust

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 9:42 am 

Replies: 126
Views: 6,631


The logic seems rather simplistic to me. Adam seems to have behaved badly in the context of God's commands but punishing a whole species for the action of one member certainly violates most common sense. It's only one possible interpretation. But I don't see it as violating most common sense, as yo...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Richard Dawkings shunned by fellow atheists/skeptics

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 8:40 am 

Replies: 51
Views: 3,314


That was not my quote. I did not claim there was no atheist movement. There are, no doubt, anti religious movements. And, a much larger group of movements that have nothing to do with God but I wonder if that warrants calling them atheistic. I wonder if a Christian might consider a Buddhist movement...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Richard Dawkings shunned by fellow atheists/skeptics

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 7:28 am 

Replies: 51
Views: 3,314


Most serious atheistic philosophers do not take Dawkins very seriously. Just as a matter of confirmation, what atheistic philosophers have been denouncing Dawkins? You were not supposed to ask, you were supposed to just buy 91's expertize on the topic. Does that mean you accept 91's expertise or yo...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: A Book You Can Trust

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 7:17 am 

Replies: 126
Views: 6,631


We know that certain groups of Homo Sapiens bred with Neandertals and Denisovans and their descendants carry those genes today. People from New Guinea carry the genes of all three sub-species. Seems like the bible omitted a few details regarding human origins. I think the Biblical account of human ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Richard Dawkings shunned by fellow atheists/skeptics

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 7:07 am 

Replies: 51
Views: 3,314


91 wrote:
Most serious atheistic philosophers do not take Dawkins very seriously.


Just as a matter of confirmation, what atheistic philosophers have been denouncing Dawkins?

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Heliocentrism: Teach the controversy

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 7:04 am 

Replies: 54
Views: 4,056


Actually, if someone were to take the time to review the flaws in Galileo's ideas, I figure it would be a cinch to put him in the same boat with Darwin, who presented the world with a good but flawed and incomplete notion of human origins. By juxtaposing them with each other, it would very well be ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Evolution selected socialism

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 2:20 am 

Replies: 49
Views: 3,758


Capitalism as it has operated successfully dependent upon the proper application of capital and the rewarding of offered labor by the majority of citizens with sustenance to participate in the system. Current operations are violating that basic arrangement and predictions seem to indicate that basic...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: The US rich destroy the economy

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 1:16 am 

Replies: 21
Views: 1,335


Are the rich really that much richer then before? Or is this a quirk of manipulating the money supply? The paychecks of rich people are higher, but suppose the dollars those check represent are worth much less over the years? I just have the feeling that the Rich, Middle Class, and Lower Class are ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Harlequin and the Bandar-log

Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 1:10 am 

Replies: 16
Views: 1,214


Perhaps more simply, ideas are fruitful and acceptable by their utility more than by the character of their creator. Thank you. Of course. That is my point - the character - highly dubious - of Gurdieff - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._I._Gurdjieff - can be ignored in light of the practical applic...
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