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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: inefficiencies of capitalism

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 3:56 pm 

Replies: 98
Views: 7,031


one simple example is that of uk supermarkets throwing away something like 20 million tons of food every year. how would you explain that? Well first you have to understand that food expires. In order to have enough food on the shelves to cater to all your customers you have to over order just a li...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 3:30 pm 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


Okay, apparently 1062651stAvenue is not much better than cw10. No surprises there. "God was at work in the fall of Communism"- I think we're done People of faith were. Is that not that hand of god so to speak? Or are you incapable of metaphorical thinking? I would say you probably are. There's an a...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

 Post subject: Re: free will and atheism
Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 3:19 pm 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


We don't have the power to stop all suffering, but God supposedly does. Believe me, were I omnipotent and all that, I would've had a different world at my disposal free of suffering and pain, but still a fun world of excitement and joy and variety. Oh, it's Mr "Virgin Birth - no response" Calavera ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

 Post subject: Re: free will and atheism
Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 3:10 pm 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


This quote is not reliable. 49 + 3 is not 55. If interpreted slightly differently; 49 + 3 + 3 + more, still does not equal 55. I reject this source as it is inherently flawed and inaccurate. It says of the 55, not 55 total. And so...CW10 fails today's math lesson. /math lesson I have 5 apples. 3 of...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

 Post subject: Re: free will and atheism
Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 4:53 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


The Founding Fathers of the US were Deist bordering on Atheism or at least rejection of the supernatural. There are many examples if you make the choice to not cherry pick what you learn Not exactly accurate. Nice blanket inaccurate statement though. Almost had us fooled. :) Some of the Founding Fa...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

 Post subject: Re: free will and atheism
Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 4:05 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


The Founding Fathers of the US were Deist bordering on Atheism or at least rejection of the supernatural. There are many examples if you make the choice to not cherry pick what you learn Not exactly accurate. Nice blanket inaccurate statement though. Almost had us fooled. :) Some of the Founding Fa...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 5:47 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


You keep asserting I'm christian by doing this, yet you claim that you're not. This is both inaccurate and disingenuous. I've explained my position many times, but you refuse to read it as I write it and substitute your own misinformed interpretation of it. This is bull. Your position to begin with...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 5:14 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


I honestly don't care what you believe (in). My argument stems from the lack of understanding most atheist types have pertaining to the type of morality and ethics they subscribe to. There's no concrete rule book so to speak. I see Secular Humanism as a flawed concept as it has no absolute ethic. Y...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 3:07 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


You're already coming from an incorrect angle. I'm not Christian, so any preconceived notions you had about me you can toss out the window. My notions of you are based on our interactions. You have argued in the manner of a fundamentalist, so I'm going to treat you as such. If you are not one, at l...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 23 Feb 2012, 2:47 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


Hell (damnation) is a Greek concept and was only adopted in later versions of the bible. You either face god or you don't, it's your choice. Being alone kinda sucks though. Please explain. And it's not that I necessarily disagree. The Bible is full of imagery of what separation from God is "like" b...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 3:23 pm 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


That's maybe an ultimate outcome? But that's a very limited and unknowledgeable view. There are outlines and examples for just about every circumstance and they all don't lead to the pearly gates or hells own kitchen. It can be a social circumstance where people just won't have anything to do with ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 4:26 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


As a collection of atoms we're bound by the functions of the universe, and there are universal truths that tend toward a harmonious life. If: We are collections of particles bound by physical laws, Then: there are universal truths. That second one? It doesn't necessarily follow the first one. Your ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 4:15 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


Let me refresh your memory: On the most part religion(s) identified those traits both negative and positive and give examples of what the most likely outcome will be . Secular Atheism borrows those same morals generally, but without accountability. Here you say religion defines the outcome of posit...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 4:06 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


You mean my one if/ statement? Another person who can't read. Lovely. *Sigh* I am trying to keep this slightly above the level of personal attacks. If you can't or won't address my actual point, why are you still posting on this topic? Last I checked, the Code of Conduct rather explicitly forbids p...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 3:46 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


Sure, but that doesn't answer the question. Atheism all points inwards to one's own self subscribed moralities. Without a framework those moralities can change in any direction. In society you're brought up being taught how to behave within the framework of laws and social behavior, but where did t...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Free-will and Atheism

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 3:28 am 

Replies: 539
Views: 33,823


Also its laughable that you keep arguing that fear of eternal punishment is a great motivator. I never once said this. This is a clear indication that you have trouble understanding English and for this I'm not qualified to help you. Perhaps I can dumb this down a lot for you. My view: Religion, a ...
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