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 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:50 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


Fnord wrote:
The collective integrity of the moderators would be undermined by any instance wherein a single moderator rendered a decision based solely on the irrelevant opinions of one member.

Provide reasoning why you think my points on the subject matter are wrong or leave me alone, please.

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:46 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


I speak on behalf of the mod team who discuss the rules and their implementation all the time. No, your participation in this thread is your personal attack against me. Nothing more. Telling me to leave you do not speak on anyones behalf here. If you have specific points that you think remain unans...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:44 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


The ones not in your favor? Well, if you accept the rules, then stay within them. I disagree with your decisions that I believe are not in the best interests of this community and I question quality of your moderation when you use your position as a tool to enforce your personal beliefs instead of ...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:41 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


We have acknowledged your points. We decide the rules and guidelines remain despite your opinions on them. Who WE? Do you speak for all people here? It is not up to you to decide. Proclaiming intent and actually acknowledging someones point of view in discussion are very different things. You didn'...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:35 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


So, do you agree to WP and The Haven rules and the fact that discussoins are moderated or not? I follow these rules, but I question ethical and moral value of "The Haven" rules. Current rules and their implementation prevent true informed decisions. And I question quality of some of your ...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:28 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


magz wrote:
What discussion am I preventing from happening? The one we're currently having?

Discussion of the subject matter. "You are free to leave" is not a discussion.

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:27 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


... what you are doing is disingenuous and immoral... Your comments are acknowledged as irrelevant.  While you have the right to discuss your grievances, posting them anywhere on this website is a privilege that can be revoked at any time. No. Replies like "If I throw you a fish will you leave...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:22 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


magz wrote:
You have a right to have this discussion and we're having it.

You are telling me to leave instead of considering validity of points made. You are effectively preventing this discussion from happening. This not what I would consider "having a discussion".

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:19 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


The rules don't change because someone comes up thinking they're unfair. This is literally how all rules and laws change over time. Because at some point someone comes up thinking they're unfair. So, again: If you don't agree to post within the rules, don't post. Simple as that. WrongPlanet.net is ...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:08 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


You know that there were some guys who told me exactly the same when I removed their nasty racist attacks? And? How does it prove your point? Murderers say they are innocent, does it mean all people who say they are innocent are murderers? Why are you doing this? You are being dishonest using these...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 9:00 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


Do you realize some rules and approaches are fundamentally wrong and should be questioned, discussed and changed? They are. The Haven rules were rewritten a year ago, based on rich experience of problems encountered there before. They have just been updated with additional guidelines, too. Yeah, an...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 8:48 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


If you do not agree to the rules of WrongPlanet.net, you should not post on WrongPlanet.net. If you do not agree to The Haven rules, you should not post in The Haven. Some users indeed avoid The Haven for this reason. Simple as that. Yes, and if a black passenger doesn't agree to move to the rear o...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 8:38 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


If you do not agree to the rules of WrongPlanet.net, you should not post on WrongPlanet.net. If you do not agree to The Haven rules, you should not post in The Haven. Some users indeed avoid The Haven for this reason. Simple as that. Yes, and if a black passenger doesn't agree to move to the rear o...

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 8:23 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


I'd suggest the location of a thread is a strong indication of what the poster is after. If one wants primarily advice there's multiple subforums for that, one of which will likely be suitable for their post. If they're posting in The Haven they're communicating that support is desired. Good point....

 Forum: The Haven   Topic: Framework for Care of Upset Person

Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 5:59 am 

Replies: 211
Views: 2,170


I know my view isn't 'woke', but there it is. If I go with my natural view, then I'm a di*k. I would be inauthentic with most other responses, which I'd rather not be. I find saying nothing works sometimes (I have been seen as a good listener :roll: ), sometimes that's absolutely the wrong thing to...

 Forum: News and Current Events   Topic: Oh god, Orange man creates his own social media....

Posted: 24 Oct 2021, 6:51 pm 

Replies: 231
Views: 3,491


Wow this is very disturbing, this is how you feel about people on the spectrum with low self esteem? Please, don't accuse me of the opposite of what I'm doing. I'm talking about the most disturbing side of extreme low self esteem and depression and how it can be toxic for other people. Otherwise it...
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