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 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA

Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 8:58 pm 

Replies: 9
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The two have several mutually exclusive ideologies, and trying to reconcile the two into one is rather problematic. Psychology often simply takes what it can use, and ignores the rest. Classical conditioning is a good example. In the study of behaviorism, recognizing the operation of classical cond...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 8:20 pm 

Replies: 123
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My brain is just wired backwards for social situations. Basically, I need to be able to get to know someone before talking to them. If you don't know someone, what do you talk to them about? Sounds like a catch-22. However ... Also for me, when talking, the subject of the conversation is the import...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA

Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 4:50 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 439


Behaviorism often gets treated like a sub-category of psychology. Like, there's the umbrella of all "psychology", and then there's the forms of psychology that fall under that umbrella - psychoanalysis, cognitive psychology, developmental psychology, etc - and behaviorism get's mis-labeld...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is Wicca/Neopaganism ruined?

Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 3:32 pm 

Replies: 18
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I can understand that but at the same time it really discourages men from taking part in witchcraft. Wicca/Witchcraft and feminist Goddess religion are just the most visible parts of a larger Pagan/occult scene, whose other sectors are not as female-dominated. For example, there are the various Pag...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is Wicca/Neopaganism ruined?

Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 12:29 pm 

Replies: 18
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Oh and don't even get me started on the amount of misandry in this community. "Hex the Patriarchy!", "Always be Lilith! Never Eve!", "We're the Daughters of the Witches you Couldn't Burn!" These are anti-male-supremacist slogans, not necessarily misandrist. Of course, ...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 5:04 pm 

Replies: 123
Views: 21,398


auntblabby wrote:
sometimes the juice just ain't worth the squeeze.

That's a metaphor that could be referring to various different things in this thread. Did you have anything specific in mind?

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't

Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 3:26 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 256


I have days where I feel very lonely and wish I had some really good friends. Then I have days where I want nothing to do with friendships and the headaches that come with them. What kinds of headaches are you referring to here? What are some of the ones that you personally fear most, to the point ...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA

Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 2:37 pm 

Replies: 9
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The problem with most ABA and most "behaviorists", is that they're actually just psychologists who read a book on classical conditioning, and called themselves a "behaviorist", on the grounds that they work with and "modify" behavior. In that regard, I very much dislik...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 7:18 pm 

Replies: 123
Views: 21,398


Applied Behavioral Analysis is a whole other kettle of fish, which could fill (and probably deserves) a whole different thread, and which I would be happy to discuss, in said other thread. Suffice to say, there are indeed problems with ABA and how it's utilized, as well as with the people implement...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 7:15 pm 

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Views: 439


Some more background from the other thread Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills? : I wrote here , in reply to a post by uncommondenominator : I think of "social skills" as being in two distinct categories: (1) what I call autistic-friendly social skills and (2) conformity to (cul...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 7:10 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 439


This is a thread for discussion about "social skills" as taught in special ed and via ABA, and some of the ways that common teaching methods may be counterproductive. Earlier I wrote here , in the thread Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills? : It isn't just autistic people who ha...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: I don't fit in with social groups for others with autism

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 2:47 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 2,126


chris1989 wrote:
Reading, writing, sometimes going out to places shopping for books, some new clothes etc.

What kinds of books do you especially like to read? Any particular genres you like, or authors you are especially fond of?

Also, what kinds of things do you like to write (besides your posts here on WP)?

 Forum: General Autism Discussion   Topic: Using movies to develop social skills

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 2:21 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 8,915


DON'T use movies as a way to learn about anything complex, like romantic relationships. Movie portrayals of romantic relationships and their development are utterly unlike reality. For example, in movies, "love at first sight" is common, simply because movies are too short to show a relati...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 1:35 pm 

Replies: 123
Views: 21,398


Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills? For the same reason I don't shake a bottle of Coke. Since when did social situations spray stick soda everywhere? :scratch: I think his point was that whenever he puts himself in any kind of social situation, there's a high risk of it (metqaphorically...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 1:29 pm 

Replies: 123
Views: 21,398


Applied Behavioral Analysis is a whole other kettle of fish, which could fill (and probably deserves) a whole different thread, and which I would be happy to discuss, in said other thread. Suffice to say, there are indeed problems with ABA and how it's utilized, as well as with the people implement...

 Forum: Social Skills and Making Friends   Topic: Why Do People Refuse To Practice Social Skills?

Posted: 16 Jun 2025, 12:38 am 

Replies: 123
Views: 21,398


The video is a humorous example of both missing the point, and making things far more complicated than they need to be. When you put that much thought into every tiny behavior, it becomes an act. Just passively listening, w/o getting lost in your own internal thoughts like the fella in the video di...
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