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06 Jan 2009, 8:48 pm

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What exactly do you do and want to do on your computer? How old is your computer? How much RAM does your computer have? You can right click on my computer and go to properties and it will say there. Which version of Windows is it? How big is your hard disk? You can find that out by opening my computer right clicking on your Windows drive which is usually C and going to properties. Once I have the answer to at least the computer usage question, I can recommend a good computer set up which is the operating system, and installed programs.


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06 Jan 2009, 9:47 pm

Wow rather powerful computer. I thought that you were some newbie, but then you show me those specs. Seriously man what happened with your Vista install? Maybe you are newbie, you just got a pretty powerful computer.

64bit Linux distros are meant to be much better than 64bit Windows. Virtual machine on that computer of an operating system that you are going to be using quite a bit, I think not. With that computer you should defiantly, back up your data, clean install Vista, and then dual boot with Ubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo

Ubuntu can first be tried from a bootable Live CD. They can send you free official Ubuntu CD's, but that could take six weeks, you can download your own 64bit version, and it's a good idea to md5sum check the ISO ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM ) before burning it's contents to a CD R. (You could use CD RW it seems, but best to use CD R it seems.) You may have to change the boot order in your BIOS so that the CD/DVD drive is the first device the computer looks for, before the CD will boot.

Adobe have made a version of Flash for 64bit Linux distros that is meant to be better than all their others, or at least for 32bit and 64bit Linux distros: http://blogs.computerworld.com/64_bit_l ... ingly_good

I have Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 32bit, dual booting with Vista Home Premium 32bit. I hardly ever boot Vista up though, Ubuntu is just so much better. In fact at the moment, I don't even have virtual machine software such as Virtualbox ( http://www.virtualbox.org ) or Windows programs running software such as Wine ( http://www.winehq.org ) installed and that's been quite a while :D.


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06 Jan 2009, 10:27 pm

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You can do what gamefreak suggests, but even then there can't be any guarantee that you have a 100% clean of malicious programs PC. As for Norton many proper computer people say it sucks.

Depending on your computer usage, you may not even need Windows any more. You may still have a good reason for it, but in that case a good idea is a virtual machine or dual boot.

With virtual machine you can have an operating system that has been designed to be more secure than Windows, such as Ubuntu as your host OS, and if you have a good enough reason Windows as the guest. Then you run it in a virtual machine software, and the host operating system will treat it like any other normal file, which means you can easily copy a good virtual machine of a clean Windows install for backup, as well as delete a Windows virtual machine easily that has been infected by a malicious program.

If you decide to do the dual boot option, you should start with a clean install of Windows, after backing up your data of course.

With a dual boot you will get a bootloader program such as Grub, if you install Ubuntu or most other Desktop Linux distro's. The bootloader will load when you turn on or re start your computer, and it will boot Ubuntu or Windows.

If you decide you just want Windows for the time being, you should back up your data and do a fresh install. Clean install is the only way to be sure that all malicious programs are gone, unless you picked up a really nasty malicious program that also infected your motherboard's BIOS which is pretty unlikely.

With Windows malicious programs can easily do things, especially if your running as admin all the time, which you will be with a default install of XP or Vista. With admin rights you and malicious programs get full control, but this also means that any built in security that there otherwise is in Windows is turned off. That is why it is a good idea to run Windows with a limited account all the time, unless you need admin to say install a new program.

What exactly do you do and want to do on your computer? How old is your computer? How much RAM does your computer have? You can right click on my computer and go to properties and it will say there. Which version of Windows is it? How big is your hard disk? You can find that out by opening my computer right clicking on your Windows drive which is usually C and going to properties. Once I have the answer to at least the computer usage question, I can recommend a good computer set up which is the operating system, and installed programs.

Whatever operating system you are running if it is connected to the Internet you should have a firewall to keep blackhats out, as in what the media call hackers, which is actually the wrong term, with the other correct term being crackers. Hacker is another name for a programmer.

You should have a password that has at least letters and numbers for any user account.

Most versions of Windows are rather insecure, because it is also the most used OS, as a result many malicious programs have been made for it. Other operating systems such as Linux distros, and Mac OS X, have been designed to be much more secure. I am not that sure about Mac OS X since I don't use it, but with most if not all Linux distros, for example Ubuntu, the user would actually have to know what they are doing to get a malicious program installed, unlike with Windows.


Actually due to security issues the default account with Vista has lno administrative privleges. I would also make 2 partitions out of that hard drive and do Ubuntu myself. I currentely run Ubuntu Interpred & have only really booted into windows because I have certain programs that won't run in Linux.

I also use my Ubuntu partition as a escape partition in case the WIndows Partition crashes. I move all my files from the Windows Partition which happens to my Drive D: and put it on the Ubuntu Partition. [Drive E] Then i format the Windows Partition w/ Ultimate Boot. Then go back to Ubuntu and get all drivers and security software to get windows running.

I also scan all my files for viruses w/ ClamAV & Spybot. [Both within the Ubuntu Partition.]

Howver with good security software and firefox windows is actually fairly secure. Just watch out for sites with porn and pirated programs and your alright.



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06 Jan 2009, 10:37 pm

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Wow rather powerful computer. I thought that you were some newbie, but then you show me those specs. Seriously man what happened with your Vista install? Maybe you are newbie, you just got a pretty powerful computer.


I'm something of a newb. For example, I don't know a word of what you said of the rest of what I cut out of your quote. On the other hand, I can navigate my way through a registry and Windows easily enough. I like to say I'm the one in my family that everyone calls when they're having confuser troubles. You know, "what do I do..."? I had HP build this computer per my specifications.

There's still a lot I need to learn though. As far as Windows vs. Mac vs. Ubuntu vs. Linux goes - I say f**k it. Gimme a GUI and I'm good. Coke and Pepsi, apples and oranges. gimme one or the other and I'm satisfied and I won't complain.



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07 Jan 2009, 1:30 pm

With Ubuntu you get a nice simple easy to use Gnome GUI by default, but loads of others to choose from as well, unlike with Windows. If you use Ubuntu as your main or only operating system, viruses and stuff like that will basically become a thing of the past.

What didn't you understand about what I put before? The links should help explain a few of the things I mentioned.


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07 Jan 2009, 5:33 pm

I think it was the overwhelming mountain of text :D I also think changing your OS for just one problem is a little drastic.



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07 Jan 2009, 6:03 pm

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I think it was the overwhelming mountain of text :D I also think changing your OS for just one problem is a little drastic.


exactly.

And don't push another OS on someone. It make you seem like a door-to-door bible thumper trying to pawn off christianity to hindus or something.



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07 Jan 2009, 6:24 pm

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changing your OS for just one problem is a little drastic.
Maybe, but won't get viruses, spyware, and that anymore, if using a good alternative OS such as my example.

Well whatever happens you should defiantly back up your data! Then start over with a clean install of Vista. After you have done that it is a very good idea to use an alternative browser such as Mozilla Firefox, for various reasons, one of which being that you won't get as many malicious programs, if any at all, as long as your using a good firewall as well, that keeps malicious people out of your computer.


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07 Jan 2009, 6:27 pm

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Seb wrote:
Wow rather powerful computer. I thought that you were some newbie, but then you show me those specs. Seriously man what happened with your Vista install? Maybe you are newbie, you just got a pretty powerful computer.


I'm something of a newb. For example, I don't know a word of what you said of the rest of what I cut out of your quote. On the other hand, I can navigate my way through a registry and Windows easily enough. I like to say I'm the one in my family that everyone calls when they're having confuser troubles. You know, "what do I do..."? I had HP build this computer per my specifications.

There's still a lot I need to learn though. As far as Windows vs. Mac vs. Ubuntu vs. Linux goes - I say f**k it. Gimme a GUI and I'm good. Coke and Pepsi, apples and oranges. gimme one or the other and I'm satisfied and I won't complain.



Well that's why you just stick w/ Vista. It works fine when the computers not infected so why throw the OS away.

So are you following through on the information I handed you!! ! Just Curious!! !

Windows is a good OS. I have no troubles w/ it. Don't mind some of the people in the forum. Its just that some of the people have a linux bias and they are pushing it on others.

If the computer is Vista Ultimate 64-Bit there should not be a problems. Have you also disabled UAC so you don't get all those stupid warnngs, seizure screens and the constant password nagging.



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07 Jan 2009, 6:58 pm

Back up your data and start over with a clean install of Vista! That way your computer won't be part of a Botnet :). At the moment when your computer is turned on and Internet connected, it may be being used by criminals to send spam from (junk email in other words), host illegal content, or cause denial of service attacks, which overload a web server so a website goes down for a while. Then of course some of these programs could be used to steal things from your computer, bank details even, if you have been doing any online banking or Internet shopping with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet

If someone malicious has gained access to your computer, which by the sounds of it is likely, or one of your malicious programs was the cause for it, you may have the worst type of malicious program installed on there of all, a Rootkit. Rootkits are very difficult to detect, and pretty much impossible to remove, except with a clean operating system install. They are usually used by criminals to hide what they are doing with a computer that has been taken over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit


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07 Jan 2009, 11:56 pm

Digger1, here is a page that will tell you how to remove that mirar toolbar using registry or add/remove in windows. Scroll down on the page and it shows how to use registry to remove.

Remember to back up your registry before you do anything.


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12 Jan 2009, 1:19 am

I installed CCleaner after my cousin recommended it. You can download it from filehippo.com


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