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Oh, okay, you're talking about one of those crackpot ideas that'll never amount to anything.

Something learn man:

The world resists change. Change on that scale isn't happening any time remotely soon.

I have autism, i don't deal well with nuances.

What is a crackpot idea? At what point does an idea stop being a crackpot idea?

The choice is change or destruction.

A crackpot idea is an idea which deviates too far from the current norm to be easily accepted or implemented. For example, the idea of perpetual motion is a crackpot idea, it involves breaking the laws of thermodynamics.

You can say it's change or destruction all you want, you won't see change on anything near that scale in your lifetime. It's too different, and no matter what you like to say about dividing the world into sustainable groups, mass murder would still be necessary. What are you going to do with the people that don't agree with your idea? Let them spoil it (which they will, very easily) or kill them?

I don't need to ask any of the founders. A quick check of the site you linked me shows me that it's just Communism, something that isn't feasible on a large scale, dressed up a little to be more believable.

Its not a political campaign, but a scientific one.

And? Politics are inevitable in a society. You aren't going to rewrite human nature (which leads us to things like politics and money) with science, no matter how hard you try. The idea isn't feasible for implementation or sustainability, purely because it ignores that human nature. It falls into the same trap Communism does.

If you're going to stamp your feet thats your perogitive.

If you are content with your lot in life then good for you.

Hopefully someone will find a little more reason to be positive from the link.

I'm not stamping my feet, I'm telling you that the system simply won't work on a large scale and explaining why.

spamming the page about human nature isn't an argument.




The page i linked you explains specifically the inherent problem with the human nature argument against egalitarianism.

Either you haven't bothered to read it or you are being obnoxious for the sake of it.

All of which ignores the fact that this system gives people no way to become superior to other people. There is no way to become rich and look down at the poor. People want the ability to become rich so they can be snobs. It makes them feel better about themselves. This system, from what I'm reading, promotes the idea of economic equality and classlessness no matter what one contributes. The man who repairs the machines that make the goods is worth no more than the musician, despite the fact that the repairman is doing a considerably more vital job than the musician. He's also doing a much more difficult job, likely with longer hours and in a less pleasant environment.

Even if the idea of a semi-flat distribution (as promoted on the page about Energy Accounting) were to come into play, I highly doubt the difference in income (which is what provides people with the motivation to work harder in most cases) could be made large enough without making the system unsustainable. That's not even getting in to the idea of money with an expiration date. What happens if someone has energy credits left over? Are they refunded, or does the person lose them all and to hell with how unjust that is? If they lose them, that promotes mass consumption at a rapid rate, which makes the EoS system no better than the current system. If they get refunded, you'll end up with the minority of people controlling the majority of the resources... again, no better than the current system.

I'm also seeing some incredible short-sightedness in the EoS's assumption that the Earth will always be sustainable. It won't be. Unless you're prepared to support and initiate population control on a massive scale, the human population is going to keep expanding until it's completely unsustainable no matter what we do. How will the EoS deal with diminishing resources and an expanding population?

I agree the current system is hardly the best and that it does need to change, but all I'm seeing here simple won't work.

edit: I feel the need to say, however, that if a sizeable enough majority actually agreed to this, if enough people banded together to actually make it happen for a time, I'd be there in a heartbeat.