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02 Jan 2009, 2:18 pm

Im downloading a version of linux offline and I want to burn it to a cd how do i do that using vista?



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02 Jan 2009, 2:58 pm

check out
ISO Recorder
to burn the download to CD/DVD

Some Linux installs start when you re-insert the new burnt disk others will need to reboot and need to be booted of the cd.



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02 Jan 2009, 7:00 pm

ImgBurn for Windows is a good one.

It is a good idea to check that a Linux distro ISO has downloaded properly before burning it, by doing a md5 checksum on the ISO that was downloaded. The burner software that someone is using may be able to do it, but if not md5summer.exe can do it. The software gives a code for the ISO, and for example with a Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex it should match one of the codes found here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS

I assume your download has finished so which distro was it?


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02 Jan 2009, 7:10 pm

Use this burner with Vista.

http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm

If you have Roxio or Nero etc, they can also properly burn out a CD like this.

For Desktops, I prefer Mepis 7.0 Linux. Use the 64 bit version if you have an AMD Processor.

For my laptop, I'm using Fedora 8. Be sure to use Nvidia if you are selecting a graphics card and a Wireless Ethernet gamers bridge if you are going to use wireless.

Linux checklist. Sound, Printer, networking. For the Internet, be sure to get Firefox and flash to work.



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02 Jan 2009, 7:48 pm

shugo974 wrote:
Im downloading a version of linux offline and I want to burn it to a cd how do i do that using vista?




Well Deepburner is free and works well for the most part. I would however recommend Ashampoo Burning Studio. Its $39.99 but is perfect for burning CD's, DVD's, and Bluray disks.

I would not go for the over-bloated Nero. The last good version was 6 and that was because it was a lightwieght application that didn't go over the top. Nero 7 and especially 8 go so far as to turn your computer to a Entertainment Studio.

Nero 6 takes up 33MB of disk space. Nero 8 takes 2.5- 8 GB. Depending on what you have.

Roxio is heading down the same road Nero is when it comes to that.



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02 Jan 2009, 8:40 pm

gamefreak :D not that it matters, but you beat me to it putting your message, before I had submited a second reply here, however at the time I had just replied to your thread.

whitelightning777 wrote:
For Desktops, I prefer Mepis 7.0 Linux. Use the 64 bit version if you have an AMD Processor.

For my laptop, I'm using Fedora 8. Be sure to use Nvidia if you are selecting a graphics card and a Wireless Ethernet gamers bridge if you are going to use wireless.

Linux checklist. Sound, Printer, networking. For the Internet, be sure to get Firefox and flash to work.
whitelightning777 ok if we are going to give people Linux distribution tips well these are good ones:

Ubuntu used to work rather fine with 128MB RAM, but now with later versions an Ubuntu Live CD won't even boot up properly on a computer with 128MB RAM, unless the computer already has a 512MB or so Linux Swap partition on it's hard disk.

Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex and a really old Nvidia graphics card? Forget about it! Intrepid Ibex uses a completely new version of Xorg, and no you can't just run some legacy Nividia graphics card driver.


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03 Jan 2009, 1:14 pm

I got it on a CD when I try to install it to my harddrive it would not install. so i choose my jumpdrive the install process went well it told me that It could not install a kernel and I might need to install one my self. Then it did a scan on my hard drive to find another OS it found 2 that I did not have and my current OS. then it try to install a way I can choose to use Windows ME or linux xubuntu it failed and stop the installing process. Any advice on what to do?



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03 Jan 2009, 2:38 pm

So your trying to install Xubuntu? How much RAM does your computer have? Even with 128MB RAM you could run proper Ubuntu, but you would need a Linux Swap partition that is about 512MB's in size on there first, (which could be created with a Gparted Live CD) for later versions, (as in Gutsy Gibbon, Hardy Heron, and Intrepid Ibex,) or the Desktop Live CD won't even boot up properly.

Windows ME is no longer supported by Microsoft and that has been quite some time. I expect that you can get all or most of the Windows ME programs that your using, working well in Wine ( http://www.winehq.org ) once you have a Linux distro on there.

Be specific, which OS's/partitions does it say you have on your computer?

It would be a good idea for you to try both, a Ubuntu Desktop Live CD for Hardy Heron as well as one for Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, on what I assume is your old computer. You will probably find that Hardy Heron works better on it, well if you got an old Nvidia graphics card that is, because Intrepid Ibex no longer has support for those. I also realize that I mentioned the graphics card thing in my previous message in this topic/thread.

As you may already know, Hardy Heron is a Long Term Support (LTS) release and so it will be supported on the desktop for three years, where as Intrepid Ibex is a standard release so only a year and a half of support. With new Ubuntu versions every six months, in April and October. (Unless a delay which has only happened once so far, since the first Ubuntu release in 2004.)


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03 Jan 2009, 2:56 pm

i have 128mb of ram. I have windows ME and I made the CD after I downloaded it off the website so I have no live CD.



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03 Jan 2009, 3:33 pm

shugo974 wrote:
i have 128mb of ram. I have windows ME and I made the CD after I downloaded it off the website so I have no live CD.


If you are using an older computer with only 128 RAM try a lightweight distribution like Puppy Linux or Damn Small Linux or even an older version of Mepis such as 3.5 or perhaps 6.0. Mepis Lite.

Of course, upgrading to whatever is the most RAM that your computer will take is also a great first step. Ditto with the CPU, if it is more cost effective then getting a whole new machine. Some versions of Mepis run on top of Debian, others use Ubuntu. What I like about it is that it is great at working with different sorts of hardware and fairly easy to use. It is both a live CD & live DVD plus can be installed on a hard drive. You can also use a live CD with a flash drive or even make a bootable USB drive out of it.

The other thing about Linux is that you will have to run around half of the internet looking for repositories that have the stuff you want especially with multimedia. Once you get it to work, back it up and enjoy. The nice thing about it once you get flash to work is that you can look at almost anything without worrying so much about getting viruses, hacked or what have you.

Currently, I'm playing with PC BSD on an older pentium machine with 768 megabytes of RAM.... that only had 128 RAM when it was new. I also upgraded from a 600 megahertz Pentium 3 to a 1200 megahertz Celeron by going to powerleap.com It is still cheaper then getting a new machine, plus you don't have the hassle of migrating all your settings from one computer to another.



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03 Jan 2009, 5:39 pm

shugo974 wrote:
I got it on a CD when I try to install it to my harddrive it would not install. so i choose my jumpdrive the install process went well it told me that It could not install a kernel and I might need to install one my self. Then it did a scan on my hard drive to find another OS it found 2 that I did not have and my current OS. then it try to install a way I can choose to use Windows ME or linux xubuntu it failed and stop the installing process. Any advice on what to do?


Hey, did you burn the .iso as an image onto cd? If not, you gotta burn the iso file as an image onto cd or it won't work properly.

My advice on what to do is go to the Ubuntu Forums. You will be able to find a better answer there than here.

If you haven't noticed, not many folk have responded to you with an useful answer really. At the ubuntu forums, people will less likely give you answers telling you which distro they're using and which one they are playing around with, because that is irrelevant to your question.


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03 Jan 2009, 7:48 pm

shugo974 wrote:
i have 128mb of ram. I have windows ME and I made the CD after I downloaded it off the website so I have no live CD.
You need to boot your computer from a CD to install, unless you do something more complex.

whitelightning777 wrote:
The other thing about Linux is that you will have to run around half of the internet looking for repositories that have the stuff you want especially with multimedia.
Installing proprietary software such as the Flash and MP3 plugins as well as proprietary video file formats support, is very easy in later versions of Ubuntu.

The open source communities Swfdec Flash plugin as of this posting, is not mentioned on this webpage: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid Swfdec can be installed from the terminal with: sudo apt-get install swfdec or sudo aptitude install swfdec

As for MP3 and proprietary video file formats, after trying to play one they should get a message coming up explaining that they need to get a codec for them, and then they will be able to do that.

If someone wants to get support for proprietary software easily they can turn on the restricted repo (System > Preferences > Software Sources) then open the terminal and run this command whilst Internet connected: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras (sudo aptitude install can be used instead of apt-get install)

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The nice thing about it once you get flash to work is that you can look at almost anything without worrying so much about getting viruses, hacked or what have you.
Flash for videos is bad, but thankfully HTML 5 has new video and audio tags, and Firefox 3.1 has built in support for OGG and that. Hopefully the video tag will replace Flash being used for videos on websites. https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_ ... in_Firefox

When it comes to firewalls that keep malicious Crackers/Blackhats out, it does not matter which OS someone is using if it is Internet connected they should have a firewall! Ideally it should be a hardware firewall be that one that is enabled in a router or something else. As far as I know hardware firewalls are the best. The media have it wrong hacker is another term for a programmer.


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05 Jan 2009, 11:35 pm

Ah yes, hackers...

I would only add this. The Open BSD firewall can be a beautiful thing. :twisted: ... if you are using a BSD variant. Linux is plenty strong as well.

BSD in most of its forms is secure enough to use as a full powered server and can put up web pages, run email, print and share files etc. With common sense use, complex passwords and avoiding unnecessary usage of the root account except for configuration or emergencies, UNIX is far more secure then most people will ever need it to be. The same is true with Linux. Only brazen user stupidity can crack UNIX in most situations unless you have real exotic stuff and work for Agencies with Capitol letters.

Still, backup your data anyway. 8)

Keep your computer under lock and key, just as you would do with a firearm or the family jewels when you aren't using it.

For Flash, use Downloadhelper with Firefox to capture it. Use mplayer to enjoy it. :wink: