beta of Windows 7 officially available for dnld

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available at microsoft.com,
EDIT: well seems it's gone, but should be found easily

snerk... I've heard it abruptly shuts off once the expiration of the tryout period. But who knows...it's all rumor for now...

LOL

the beta is back:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/eval ... 53205.aspx

I hope its better than Vista and not just a "makeover"; but not holding my breath.

We've all seen MS try to put the best face they could on Vista, even going as far as supposedly tricking people into using it. This beta program seems like more of the same. Instead of making it freely available for anyone like any other beta so that they get as much feedback as possible, they're trying to increase demand for it by limiting the number of downloads they'll provide. I haven't found it in print anywhere, but a coworker told me that MS claimed that making it available could "break the entire internet" If they were concerned about bandwidth, they could have made it available as a torrent.

The real problem is that Vista has set our standards so low that "hey, it works!" is now good enough to call it a success. I really hope it's a good product, since I'm going to have to support it soon enough, but I'll wait to see how many people are actually happy with it. XP still works for everything that's out there now.

I'm going to try to install it on my Toshiba tonight... which means I may want to get the thumbdrive with supergrub setup. I so don't want to be stuck if it sucks.

And in other news... it looks like vista, smells like vista, but seems to run much better than vista. M$ would save themselves a lot of p***ed off people by allowing a free upgrade from vista to Win7.

Even if it is just Hitler laughing.

People who buy a new Vista computer after the 1st of July, will be entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 7: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructur ... 3135NWDTMS

I could have started a thread here about the Beta and replacement plan on Thurs Jan 8th, but I didn't.

its a lot better then vista the looks are based off vista,"Lots Of Bugs" just ask Kip
o ya theres a BASH type shell (its a pain to find it)

Heres the link
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... nload.aspx

you can get up to 4 to 5 keys

(best to test on multi-computers)

You omited the usual hover popup:(I left his spelling - it adds to the charm.)

Anyone else see some red flags in here? I'll go through the claims.

"Secure foundation of Wndows Vista and Windows Server 2008." No comment is needed.

"Performance, reliability, security, and compatibility are core tenets..." Um, right. Except that every other major OS (Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, BSD, Solaris) all blow Windows completely out of the water in all of those areas, hands down. I mean, security on Windows has nothing on BSD. Windows performance is unlikely ever to match Linux. Compatibility is definitely done better by all flavors of *nix that I've seen. Reliability shouldn't even have to be mentioned. Again, a UNIX foundation gives all the others an edge over Windows. If you want "performance, reliability, security, and compatibility" you probably aren't using Windows to begin with anyways.

"...goals of making Windows 7 the best-performing and most stable Windows operating system to date." NB: they said the goal is to make it the best-performing and most stable Windows OS to date. Not the best OS, but the best Windows OS. There's no use in them attempting to compete with other operating systems in the fields of performance and stability, because they will quite frankly lose.

The plan seems to be for it to suck less than Vista, and then people will lap it up. XP cant' stay around forever.

I installed it... had a bit of trouble with drivers and if I make it think to hard it crashes out on me...

But it really is better than Vista... for the first time since 98, I'm actually kind of excited about what MS is doing... But I'll still use *nix. It'll just make my job more popular again since there's a MAJOR difference in the way the underlying system is handled... I can see many sales and repairs in my future...

What is so hard about making a pure gaming OS? Vista takes up so many resources you need MORE than minimum system requirements to run the game anyway.

did you say bash shell? Isn't that Unix or Linux? or maybe that's the Korn shell...
Somehow that could be another thread; If MS did Linux...

Well, I detest Windows as it is so I thought "lets see how long THIS works for"

so....

1) Pulled out a spare P4 that nobody uses
2) Dowloaded the beta

so now to install it, and see if it does or doesn't work