Sean wrote:
You also said I'm right. In order to be right, I would have to understand your argument and successfully counter it by exposing shortcomings in it and propose one that is more refined.
You said that Anakin exemplified the Sith Code halfway through Episode II. That is what I was agreeing with. Anakin sought Palpatine's help by his own free will.
Here is when the point I am trying to make comes into the picture. But then why did go to Palpatine for help? The dreams. If Anakin was not afraid of what he saw, would he have gone to Palpatine for the power to keep Padme from dying? If he had not gone to Palpatine would he have joined the Dark Side? He might've eventually, but not then. Let's say he wouldn't have. Would Padme die? No. Therefore,
his own actions led to her death when he
originally thought he was protecting her.
Sean wrote:
Therefore I can reasonably assume (and I'm not bagging) that conceding defeat is a new concept to you.
Sorry, my friend, but you are mistakened. As I noted above, some of your points were correct, but not your argument in its entirety.
Tim_p wrote:
I think I understand what your saying. It still is somewhat of a "chicken or the egg" matter; did the prophecy make him do it, or did he see the prophecy because he was going to do it? It's impossible to say.
Yes that is exactly what I am saying.
I loved this prophecy stuff. I think it's fascinating.