Are audiences so sensitive and offended by movie content now

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24 Apr 2020, 6:25 am

Ironpony, I think you should try exploring movies from outside the Hollywood bubble. There’s a whole wealth of great movies from all over the world that you could watch. There’s even plenty of independent American movies that had no involvement from Hollywood whatsoever that you could watch. Broaden your horizons a bit and you will soon stop relying on the major studios for your movie fix.



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24 Apr 2020, 8:17 am

AlanMooresBeard wrote:
Ironpony, I think you should try exploring movies from outside the Hollywood bubble. There’s a whole wealth of great movies from all over the world that you could watch. There’s even plenty of independent American movies that had no involvement from Hollywood whatsoever that you could watch. Broaden your horizons a bit and you will soon stop relying on the major studios for your movie fix.
Even the independent "shorts" produced by college students can be better than a full-length feature by a Hollywood studio!



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24 Apr 2020, 10:51 am

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Exactly. Just be a little more adventurous and you'll always be able to find decent movies to watch.



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24 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm

AlanMooresBeard wrote:
Ironpony, I think you should try exploring movies from outside the Hollywood bubble. There’s a whole wealth of great movies from all over the world that you could watch. There’s even plenty of independent American movies that had no involvement from Hollywood whatsoever that you could watch. Broaden your horizons a bit and you will soon stop relying on the major studios for your movie fix.


Oh yeah for sure, I watch a lot of foreign films. And yes, two examples of risky, gritty movies I mention were Spanish.

But that's my point. Why can't Hollywood go back to how they use to be and be more gutsy, with more serious subject matter in their stories? Why do they have to be safe compared to how they use to be? What happened?



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25 Apr 2020, 12:07 am

Was the recent Joker movie less serious subject matter than the 1989 Batman movie?

I know the two are not entirely comparable, but I just want to know when supposedly Hollywood was deep and how it supposedly not now. You can pick outliers by years, but Hollywood has been led mostly by commercialism for about as long as it has existed. It is not apt to pull out two particular movies that were 5 years apart, and wonder why none of the 5 past movies that were largely advertised for cinema release are not exactly like them. Choose any particular movie that stands out and it would probably be pretty easy to name several vapid movies that came out around the same time.

No one holds up movies like 1999's The Haunting as some masterpiece of deep cinema when having comparisons to 2018's The Haunting on Hill House. Sure you can pick out a few good ones, but are half of this list of 1990s thriller movies sound like they left an impact? Not to say that there are no differences now, more movies are made than, and the big movies that spend the big bucks on making movies want to make sure that they make a big profit, they need that mass appeal or competition means investors lose a lot, like Cats.


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25 Apr 2020, 12:24 am

Well Joker was not bad, and better than usual for sure, but I feel like it's a needle in a haystack of so many other safer movies. It just feels like Hollywood made more before, compared to now, unless I am missing all the newer ones? Are there any other thrillers or dramas with just as much nerve as Joker lately that I missed?



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25 Apr 2020, 1:06 am

Not to try and compare to one of last year most well received movies, Joker. But we had things like Brightburn, that had some pretty serious things in it, a child being it's main villain. There was Us, the movie with the doppelgangers that was largely about things like class divide. The recent Pet Sematary adaption had some pretty mind bending parts. I thought that the new Child's Play took a different approach in saying how technology can be value neutral before corrupted by arrogance.

And I have good things about Knives and Midsommar. Pretty sure all of these movies are from last year.


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25 Apr 2020, 3:01 am

Oh okay I haven't even heard of those ones, accept for Us, which I saw. What so was controversial or risky about that one though? I didn't think it was much of a risk taker in terms of subject matter unless I'm wrong?



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25 Apr 2020, 3:08 am

Well, Us does have a lot of murder, including with teenagers and children the F the police bit. Kind of hard not to see the whole class thing when it is about a lower one killing off and replacing the higher one, with also a message that there is not an actual inherent difference rather than circumstance, which the twist telegraphs. I would think some people would see that as controversial.


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25 Apr 2020, 4:04 am

Oh okay, maybe I just didn't see us as darker, because the whole battle of the classes thing has been done a lot before recently, such as the recent Planet of the Apes movies or X-men, etc. So maybe I just saw it as a trope more now.

Maybe I saw it as more of a trope though, because I felt in Us, they didn't really do a lot with such subject matter though, or really take it that far it seems. The movie uses class struggle as more of an allegory, rather than dealing with the subject matter dead on, if that makes more sense?



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25 Apr 2020, 6:21 pm

"Spanish Avengers"

Turkish SW , turkish Rambo......be afraid , be veeeeery afraid :lol: 8O



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28 Apr 2020, 9:16 pm

Just watched a WatchMojo video on top 10 movies that could never be made today. Thought that it probably should be linked here.


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10 May 2020, 11:00 pm

I think that video is way too black and white about it. Some of those movies could be made today, like Borat for example, if the filmmakers had guts, and trusted their audiences, couldn't they?



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25 Jun 2020, 2:40 pm

To be honest I feel that no movie can fit my exact needs, so I feel a safe by the numbers Hollywood movie is the closest thing I can get.



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13 Jul 2020, 1:21 am

Id like 80s based TMNT movie (no internet , no cel phones and with an edge like the 1990 movie) and 50s/60s based Bond films (un-pc with Bond smoking and slapping a womans behind as a prank.....itll never happen as everythings become so pc these days)