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21 Apr 2011, 12:53 pm

Ive loved it scents i was a kid and could begin to understand what i was watching Historey!
And im really intorested in hitler and things that time was very intoresting to me i mean the stuff they had (not like now) and when you look at the world now how its changed! what happend then and what they did how avreything worked and how avreything was so sad and wrong! Its intoresting but how did hitler really die? they said on one of the chanels on TV one time that they fond this skull and blood and the skull belonged to the girl and the blood the male. Then theres other things and storeys about how he died and what may have happend to him so i dont think they know till this day. myself i think what they said on that show i saw is right. i think something happend along that line were they fond that stuff but who knows.

What do you think happend? and do you like this kind of stuff to?



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21 Apr 2011, 1:15 pm

I started reading at an early age and was reading adult level books by the time I was five years old. My mother's house had thousands of books in it. Some of what I read when young was about World War II, Hitler, and the Holocaust including The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by Shirer and Inside the Third Reich by Speer. I was horrified that human beings could do this to each other. It scarred me for life and made life more unpleasant than it already was for me from my sensory and social issues.

I tried to learn as much as I could about every subject, reading everything about everything but especially focusing on the history of the World Wars of the 20th century. I would read books from as many different perspectives as possible, written by Privates, Sergeants, Captains, Colonels, Generals, politicians, businessmen, and other civilians. I read primary sources written by people who were there at certain battles, and secondary and tertiary sources written by historians about those times and events. I also read books written by German and Japanese sources (translated into English) to try to understand their perspective.

Hitler was an abomination of human history. Now in certain times and cultures in history what he did would not have stood out, but for the leader of a modern industrial supposedly "civilized" state to devote vast resources of the state towards enslaving or exterminating everyone else on earth, that is just wrong, plain wrong. I am very glad Hitler lost World War II. It makes me sick that some people try to claim the Holocaust never happened. It makes me even sicker that some people admit it did happen but say it was a good thing!


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21 Apr 2011, 1:21 pm

The human world is horrible yes you are very right it is sick but heres something if this didnt happen then what would we be intorested in? what would have changed are thinking? nothing.
But yes i know its horrible but still very intoresteing. as for me i dont like to read that much but watching movies helps me and i love it. for me its hard to understand things in reading or on movies so i may not know as much but i try because i love learning about the world.



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22 Apr 2011, 12:53 pm

Hitler was evil but at the same time a genius how he came into power was legal he did everything by the book the funny thing is if the people of germany would have read Mein Kampf they would have learned about his future down right evil plans im german but that doesnt mean I like hitler I do how every find nazis and soviets interesting



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23 Apr 2011, 4:25 pm

Joker wrote:
...a genius...


Hitler had no clue how to run an army. He completely destroyed any chance for victory the Germans had with his decisions. He was mostly all talk.

Joker wrote:
they would have learned about his future down right evil plans...


No, they knew completely. Anti-Semitism was rampant all the way back in 1933. They had posters saying people with disabilities are a burden on the system. They knew completely what was going on, but things were SO bad and they said the right things.

This website has A LOT of German propaganda during that time on it.

Edited for proper grammar.


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24 Apr 2011, 4:34 am

HerrGrimm wrote:
Joker wrote:
...a genius...


Hitler had not clue how to run an army. He completely destroyed any chance for victory the Germans had with his decisions. He was mostly all talk.

Yes. A lot of historians tend to agree that from a tactical perspective, one of the German army's weakest links, if not the weakest, was Hitler.

A lot of what we say these days: "If they had only~~" is said with hindsight. One of the most insidious things about evil is that many times the most "successful" evil creeps into a society so slowly that many people living in that society don't realise that it is happening. Until it was too late to stop.

Hitler was a loser.


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