Sheldon Cooper. Aspie, or offensive parody?

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28 Nov 2011, 5:24 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
And BTW, someone else said the actor is gay. If you became gay, that would SURELY ruin it for your future wife. I wouldn't chance it. It's too risky.

I'd also watch out for the feminine hygeine commercials and viagra like pills commercials on regular tv.

Don't wanna be getting any ideas now!

</sarcasm>

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I know that sarcasm trick. It is because there is no opening tag that it is so funny and cruel at the same time.

And really, what is it with having a mating drive? The myth about what men think every 9 minutes is either false, inapplicable to me because of my adolescence, or inapplicable to me because of my mental autocracy. That is why I wonder why people like seeing the grotesque, barely clothed figures and why I will need to find a way to develop something more than a mere common special interest. I suppose AS comes with being naïve about the condition of the world and the difficulty of being pure to those who are influenced by the bodies of others more than by the minds or level of neurological self-control.

CORRECTION:
Original: "...neurological control."
Revision: "...level of neurological self-control



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28 Nov 2011, 8:29 am

kevinjh wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
And BTW, someone else said the actor is gay. If you became gay, that would SURELY ruin it for your future wife. I wouldn't chance it. It's too risky.

I'd also watch out for the feminine hygeine commercials and viagra like pills commercials on regular tv.

Don't wanna be getting any ideas now!

</sarcasm>

Frances


I know that sarcasm trick. It is because there is no opening tag that it is so funny and cruel at the same time.

And really, what is it with having a mating drive? The myth about what men think every 9 minutes is either false, inapplicable to me because of my adolescence, or inapplicable to me because of my mental autocracy. That is why I wonder why people like seeing the grotesque, barely clothed figures and why I will need to find a way to develop something more than a mere common special interest. I suppose AS comes with being naïve about the condition of the world and the difficulty of being pure to those who are influenced by the bodies of others more than by the minds or level of neurological self-control.

CORRECTION:
Original: "...neurological control."
Revision: "...level of neurological self-control


lol

I have a few questions.

1. How does avoiding sexual references on TV keep you pure?
2. What do you do when it occurs in the real world? For example, when you see or hear something 'impure' at school or anywhere else (especially in sex education classes, which at your age I'm fairly sure you may have encountered).
3. Aren't you worried that you're going to be horribly inexperienced if you do eventually get married?
4. If you don't like "grotesque, barely clothed figures", are you certain you are heterosexual? Grotesque seems like a strange choice of word.
5. Why do you want to be married so much if you don't have much of a sex drive?
6. Do you really believe men are obsessed and controlled by sex?

I find it very strange that you are so concerned with purity. Not just for it's own sake, but you think it's somehow appropriate for your perceived mental age. Or something.



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28 Nov 2011, 10:38 am

kevinjh wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
And BTW, someone else said the actor is gay. If you became gay, that would SURELY ruin it for your future wife. I wouldn't chance it. It's too risky.

I'd also watch out for the feminine hygeine commercials and viagra like pills commercials on regular tv.

Don't wanna be getting any ideas now!

</sarcasm>

Frances


I know that sarcasm trick. It is because there is no opening tag that it is so funny and cruel at the same time.

And really, what is it with having a mating drive? The myth about what men think every 9 minutes is either false, inapplicable to me because of my adolescence, or inapplicable to me because of my mental autocracy. That is why I wonder why people like seeing the grotesque, barely clothed figures and why I will need to find a way to develop something more than a mere common special interest. I suppose AS comes with being naïve about the condition of the world and the difficulty of being pure to those who are influenced by the bodies of others more than by the minds or level of neurological self-control.

CORRECTION:
Original: "...neurological control."
Revision: "...level of neurological self-control


I wasn't trying to be mean at all, I'm sorry. I forget that my idea of sarcastic humor may not be the same as someone else's.

I think what rubbed me the wrong was was that it sounded like it was something that someone told you, rather than something you desired to avoid for yourself. Like something that a teacher or parent will warn you about when they are bieng overprotective.

At first I thought you were being sarcastic, because the show is not one that anyone would consider too mature for some viewers, by any means.

Frances



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28 Nov 2011, 12:43 pm

You should all be watching Community instead anyway. If you like BBT you won't get Community. It's brilliant.



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28 Nov 2011, 2:09 pm

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28 Nov 2011, 6:11 pm

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
kevinjh wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
And BTW, someone else said the actor is gay. If you became gay, that would SURELY ruin it for your future wife. I wouldn't chance it. It's too risky.

I'd also watch out for the feminine hygeine commercials and viagra like pills commercials on regular tv.

Don't wanna be getting any ideas now!

</sarcasm>

Frances


I know that sarcasm trick. It is because there is no opening tag that it is so funny and cruel at the same time.

And really, what is it with having a mating drive? The myth about what men think every 9 minutes is either false, inapplicable to me because of my adolescence, or inapplicable to me because of my mental autocracy. That is why I wonder why people like seeing the grotesque, barely clothed figures and why I will need to find a way to develop something more than a mere common special interest. I suppose AS comes with being naïve about the condition of the world and the difficulty of being pure to those who are influenced by the bodies of others more than by the minds or level of neurological self-control.

CORRECTION:
Original: "...neurological control."
Revision: "...level of neurological self-control


lol

I have a few questions.

1. How does avoiding sexual references on TV keep you pure?
2. What do you do when it occurs in the real world? For example, when you see or hear something 'impure' at school or anywhere else (especially in sex education classes, which at your age I'm fairly sure you may have encountered).
3. Aren't you worried that you're going to be horribly inexperienced if you do eventually get married?
4. If you don't like "grotesque, barely clothed figures", are you certain you are heterosexual? Grotesque seems like a strange choice of word.
5. Why do you want to be married so much if you don't have much of a sex drive?
6. Do you really believe men are obsessed and controlled by sex?

I find it very strange that you are so concerned with purity. Not just for it's own sake, but you think it's somehow appropriate for your perceived mental age. Or something.


I think Kevinjh is a young man coming to terms with all these strange things... they can be very confusing. I was (am!) confused about things like my sexual nature, the sexual nature of others, relationships and things like that for years and years...


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28 Nov 2011, 7:14 pm

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I think Kevinjh is a young man coming to terms with all these strange things... they can be very confusing. I was (am!) confused about things like my sexual nature, the sexual nature of others, relationships and things like that for years and years...


He doesn't sound confused to me. Just strict standards.



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28 Nov 2011, 7:26 pm

Well, at 16 he's not an adolescent, and he is pretty much what we call down here "grown up". 16 is pretty much the age of full maturity where I live. You may not be able to buy alcohol or cigarettes or join the army, but you can drive and also get married if you choose. He called himself an adolesent in his own post. My son of the same age calls himself a "grown a** man" and, he is. In many aspects.

My 15yo daughter watches all sorts of things on tv when it's available. Her favorite right now is the "Vampire Diaries". She is a normal, well adjusted, 15yo girl. My 16yo son knows all about all the sexual things that the poster in question seems to be afraid of. Whether or not he has done them is his business, not mine, and I don't ask or want to know.

We are not immoral people. We are the nicest people you would ever meet. Just because someone sees something that isn't made for 5 year olds, does not make them some corrupted wh*re or something. It just means you know about it. And if the OP doesn't want to know about it beforehand, then how in God's name will he get through the wedding night once he finds out she has a va-jay-jay?

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28 Nov 2011, 7:34 pm

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Well, at 16 he's not an adolescent, and he is pretty much what we call down here "grown up". 16 is pretty much the age of full maturity where I live. You may not be able to buy alcohol or cigarettes or join the army, but you can drive and also get married if you choose. He called himself an adolesent in his own post. My son of the same age calls himself a "grown a** man" and, he is. In many aspects.

My 15yo daughter watches all sorts of things on tv when it's available. Her favorite right now is the "Vampire Diaries". She is a normal, well adjusted, 15yo girl. My 16yo son knows all about all the sexual things that the poster in question seems to be afraid of. Whether or not he has done them is his business, not mine, and I don't ask or want to know.

We are not immoral people. We are the nicest people you would ever meet. Just because someone sees something that isn't made for 5 year olds, does not make them some corrupted wh*re or something. It just means you know about it. And if the OP doesn't want to know about it beforehand, then how in God's name will he get through the wedding night once he finds out she has a va-jay-jay?

Frances


I would expect most people will agree that watching tv is not going to corrupt you. Especially at 16, and even at 12.

I would really like to hear back from you kevinjh. You have some interesting viewpoints.



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28 Nov 2011, 7:40 pm

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28 Nov 2011, 7:41 pm

...quit getting offended....

Don't watch the show if it bothers you.

People are trying to be offended these days.



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28 Nov 2011, 8:02 pm

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OliveOilMom wrote:
Well, at 16 he's not an adolescent, and he is pretty much what we call down here "grown up". 16 is pretty much the age of full maturity where I live. You may not be able to buy alcohol or cigarettes or join the army, but you can drive and also get married if you choose. He called himself an adolesent in his own post. My son of the same age calls himself a "grown a** man" and, he is. In many aspects.

My 15yo daughter watches all sorts of things on tv when it's available. Her favorite right now is the "Vampire Diaries". She is a normal, well adjusted, 15yo girl. My 16yo son knows all about all the sexual things that the poster in question seems to be afraid of. Whether or not he has done them is his business, not mine, and I don't ask or want to know.

We are not immoral people. We are the nicest people you would ever meet. Just because someone sees something that isn't made for 5 year olds, does not make them some corrupted wh*re or something. It just means you know about it. And if the OP doesn't want to know about it beforehand, then how in God's name will he get through the wedding night once he finds out she has a va-jay-jay?

Frances

People mature at different rates, but very few people are fully mature adults at the age of 16, or even 18.

However, if you do think 16 year old are capable of making decisions for themselves, why won't you respect a decision not to watch certain programs on TV?

NB: I admit that was not an adult at 16, even if I had moved out of home, and thought of as rather mature by my peers


I understand that not everyone matures at the same rate. However, I think that the OP has very different ideas than what just a little behind the rest teen feels. At 16 I couldn't have lived on my own. No way. I had all my mother's ideas shoved down my throat, etc. I was too busy being frail and different. I got over that though.

My son, yes, he is grown at 16. I wouldn't have any fears of leaving him on his own in downtown Brooklyn. He could and would deal with it and find a place to work and stay. Not that I would ever leave my son on his own without help, but I know that if something happened to us, he would be fine. He's grown. He would also take care of his sisters.

My 15yo daughter can and does watch television, anything thats on, she isn't afraid of shows. She's a bit afraid of being bored by them though. Right now, she likes the Discovery Channel and spent two hours this weekend watching some guy catch a huge 500 lb catfish or something on a documentary that talks about species that are still around and didn't evolve too much. That's what she wants to do for a living. Find them.


Everyone matures at different speeds, but I have seen four kids grow up and they have gotten way past his fears, or actually never had them.

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28 Nov 2011, 10:18 pm

I just watched that show for the first time the other day. I think it is awfully funny. I have been watching all the reruns now. They are all pretty great but Sheldon is the best.



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29 Nov 2011, 12:27 pm

Dr. Cooper is my hero, people compare me to him but I think they're telling me what I want to hear also I keep scoring as him in which The Big Bang Theory character tests are you but that child be because I entry that result and distort my answers accordingly on a subconscious level I also like Dr. Rajesh Koothrappali, we're both bad art meeting women



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29 Nov 2011, 4:51 pm

I think certain people are being a bit harsh here. You shouldn't put someone down for deciding certain content on tv shows is not for them.

I was a bit the same when I was younger. It wasn't a fear as such, more a feeling certain jokes of a sexual nature were crass and unnecessary. I used to hate Friends. It doesn't bother me so much now i'm older... And jaded, lol.

I saw Neil Flynn interviewed about why he took the role of the dad in The Middle and he said that he liked the writing, there were no cheap jokes about sex thrown in there for a cheap easy laugh.

Apparently the Native Americans are bewildered by our blaze attitude toward joking about sex. They view it as sacred and special.

Everyone is different I guess.



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05 Dec 2011, 3:55 am

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lol

I have a few questions.

1. How does avoiding sexual references on TV keep you pure?
2. What do you do when it occurs in the real world? For example, when you see or hear something 'impure' at school or anywhere else (especially in sex education classes, which at your age I'm fairly sure you may have encountered).
3. Aren't you worried that you're going to be horribly inexperienced if you do eventually get married?
4. If you don't like "grotesque, barely clothed figures", are you certain you are heterosexual? Grotesque seems like a strange choice of word.
5. Why do you want to be married so much if you don't have much of a sex drive?
6. Do you really believe men are obsessed and controlled by sex?

I find it very strange that you are so concerned with purity. Not just for it's own sake, but you think it's somehow appropriate for your perceived mental age. Or something.


1. It prevents me from receiving unwanted input I might interpolate to form what is called corruption.
2. They told I am the first person in (fifty or fifteen) years to waive a sex education. I dislike tactile contact even in the context of a make-a-circle game or something like that regarding introductions. I know which profanities refer to mating, but I have given up trying to report them to avoid laryngitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, or both.
3. Certainly there must be some instinct that will awaken itself when I allow it to do so. Until then, I will ensure that mating drives are kept at Priority 0 relative to the intellectual drive, which reaches Priority +8 on most days.
4. I dislike seeing anyone with little clothing. The sight of humans is quite repulsive to me and a sure way to get me out of any location. Perhaps, at some point in this decade, I will be able to correct it, but my highest drive is currently for knowledge and acclimation.
5. I wish to transfer my genes, if only to satisfy one of the conditions for living organism. I also wish to maintain my legacy, although the worst case might push me to convert one of my somatic cells into a stem cell (according to the procedure, once it is improved), which is somewhat analogous to reconstructing an identical twin (not cloning as it is currently done, may not require destruction of any egg cells).
6. I note that most of my peers seem to want mating without breeding, and this is very disturbing to me. It shows a certain degeneration in the general morality and it adds yet another reason to be cynical and detached.

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I wasn't trying to be mean at all, I'm sorry. I forget that my idea of sarcastic humor may not be the same as someone else's.

I think what rubbed me the wrong was was that it sounded like it was something that someone told you, rather than something you desired to avoid for yourself. Like something that a teacher or parent will warn you about when they are bieng overprotective.

At first I thought you were being sarcastic, because the show is not one that anyone would consider too mature for some viewers, by any means.

Frances

I only found out about the un-opened sarcasm tag a few months ago and am still working on thinking around it, so I think I know your intentions were for humor rather than offense.

I formed my own beliefs based on what I knew was right, and most of the other students know about my strict adherence to this personal self-regulation. My parents did not even care or notice anything about the sex education until I requested that they waive my requirement. I know I do not need the school's program about drugs and sex because I am averse to both of them and can easily resist peer pressure. Perhaps it is just a symptom of AS that I care more for my own condition than the opinions of others, but my parents are actually quite lax and would have stronger feelings of supporting the termination of engaging in them than of rebuking for what was done.

I know people mention Poe's Law, but this is real, not a fake.

Z35TYL3M0N wrote:
...quit getting offended....

Don't watch the show if it bothers you.

People are trying to be offended these days.

There is a difference between being offended and staying true to a personal code. I cannot recall any incidents in which I was offended in the last few years, but I do try to reduce the amount of falsehood by better means than allowing excess noradrenaline to circulate. The original intent of even posting here was to try to answer the question. I consider it a bad comparison to make because I tend to have a monotone, I would not make phone calls, I would only rarely use flowcharts for the purposes shown, I do not dress in inordinately colorful clothing, and I would not behave in the manner shown especially in front of the audience displayed. I wonder what it is that causes so many people to make such comparisons.