Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984 version, with John Hurt)

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03 Oct 2007, 7:50 pm

Anyone watch this film before? An excellent film, one of the best adaptations of any book I've ever seen. It is also one of the few films that actually makes me cry, when at the end, Winston Smith says, looking at the image of Big Brother, "I love you". That is when his humanity has been completely erased. A moment of sadness.


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03 Oct 2007, 8:04 pm

I remember that movie -- it was an exceptionally good version. I'll have to rent that again sometime.

For some odd reason, I wrote most of my college English papers on George Orwell. Makes no sense, because I"m a generally happy personality, and his books are not exactly "happy".

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03 Oct 2007, 8:11 pm

Hmm. Animal Farm also has a very pessimistic ending....


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03 Oct 2007, 8:30 pm

Yeah, I saw that and really liked it. I've always been of the opinion that the original book is a little over-the-top, though.



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03 Oct 2007, 8:31 pm

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Yeah, I saw that and really liked it. I've always been of the opinion that the original book is a little over-the-top, though.


Over-pessimistic is what I would use....


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03 Oct 2007, 8:40 pm

Yeah Orwell was one of many pessimistic intellectuals of his time. Clearly the year 1984 was a lot different, but sometimes it seems like things are going more towards that way in America. War in Afganistan suddenly becomes the war in Iraq, spying is now legal, ecetera...
I'm usually optimistic, but I still like Orwell a lot.
In animal farm, my favorite character is Benjamin, I'm not sure why.
I'll probably try to see this film if I ever get a chance.



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03 Oct 2007, 9:12 pm

TheMidnightJudge wrote:
Yeah Orwell was one of many pessimistic intellectuals of his time. Clearly the year 1984 was a lot different, but sometimes it seems like things are going more towards that way in America. War in Afganistan suddenly becomes the war in Iraq, spying is now legal, ecetera...
I'm usually optimistic, but I still like Orwell a lot.
In animal farm, my favorite character is Benjamin, I'm not sure why.
I'll probably try to see this film if I ever get a chance.

Of course Benjamin was the best character in Animal Farm. You've got to respect the hard-core cynic.


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03 Oct 2007, 9:32 pm

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TheMidnightJudge wrote:
Yeah Orwell was one of many pessimistic intellectuals of his time. Clearly the year 1984 was a lot different, but sometimes it seems like things are going more towards that way in America. War in Afganistan suddenly becomes the war in Iraq, spying is now legal, ecetera...
I'm usually optimistic, but I still like Orwell a lot.
In animal farm, my favorite character is Benjamin, I'm not sure why.
I'll probably try to see this film if I ever get a chance.

Of course Benjamin was the best character in Animal Farm. You've got to respect the hard-core cynic.


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07 Oct 2007, 2:19 am

I have not seen this movie yet, but I might have to. A film adaptation of the book 1984 done in the year 1984 is totally awesome and worth seeing simply so I can tell my friends how cool I am. They will laugh, but still be impressed. Thanks for posting this thread so I can expand my cinematic knowledge.



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11 Oct 2007, 12:59 am

i only saw the beginning of that movie...but i have read the book....scary how life seems to be reflecting art lately.



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11 Oct 2007, 5:51 am

I love the movie, but the book is also one of my favourite. Interestingly, I first read it (in German translation) when I was ten and immediately felt: "That's what my life is like." Obviously the need to always keep a check on one's thoughts and try to fit in made me feel as if I were living in a police state.



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25 Oct 2007, 7:33 am

Aerin wrote:
I have not seen this movie yet, but I might have to. A film adaptation of the book 1984 done in the year 1984 is totally awesome and worth seeing simply so I can tell my friends how cool I am. They will laugh, but still be impressed. Thanks for posting this thread so I can expand my cinematic knowledge.

It was also filmed in the section of London where Orwell had meant it to have taken place.



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08 Dec 2007, 5:06 pm

Shinigami wrote:
i only saw the beginning of that movie...but i have read the book....scary how life seems to be reflecting art lately.


1984 wasnt art, it was whistle-blowing.

A lot of the more moral amongst the powerfull and intelligent have known for a few generations the plan for world domination by a certain elite as can be read in such things as the Protocol of the Elders of Zion and the Illuminati manifesto.

Some like British Prime Minister Benjamin Disreali and President JFK came right out and said it, warning Governmnet of the influence on governmnets by "the hidden hand".

Some, like Orwell put it in the form of fiction.

Another to do so was H.G.Wells, in his book "The Time machine" we are shown the future of Mankind with the Golden haired Elite and the dumbed down masses that had almost become animals.
This is still in its early stages, the dumbing down of television with the like or reality shows is a tangible demonstration, as is the mixing of all the differant races untill we are all one coffee coloured race except for the ruling Elite who do and will keep themselves racially pure white, ruling us grunts as slaves, whilst considering themselves a higher form of man.



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16 Dec 2007, 9:11 pm

i have this film lying around on dvd, but i have never brought myself to actually watch it, ive always been afraid of film adaptations of books i've loved. does this film do the book justice?