Saw Star Trek today
I liked Kirk LESS in this movie, since they made him even more of a jock than the old one. But at least he was more believable.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty slick.
If you guys watch J.J. Abrams other shows you would've found several references to Lost and Fringe in the film.
The time travel stuff is pure Lost-inspired.
And the alternate reality plotline is Fringe-inspired.
Also, there's a constant frequent presence of blue lights throughout the film that is also common in every episode of Fringe.
I thought it was cool to see those things in the film.
Hope the blue lights didn't drive any of your sensors crazy!
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I liked Kirk LESS in this movie, since they made him even more of a jock than the old one. But at least he was more believable
Up until Star Trek I never heard of Chris Pine and didn't know what he did prior to Star Trek. In retrospect casting him was perfect because it mirrors Shatner's celebrity status back in the 60's when he was cast for Kirk. Nobody knew who he was either.
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The time travel stuff is pure Lost-inspired.
And the alternate reality plotline is Fringe-inspired.
Also, there's a constant frequent presence of blue lights throughout the film that is also common in every episode of Fringe.
I thought it was cool to see those things in the film.
Hope the blue lights didn't drive any of your sensors crazy!
Not to mention the reference (possibly references) to Futurama. Kudos to anyone that spotted it.
I saw it last week and it was good. Still Spock meeting Spock was one of those moments that was funny and interesting.
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I saw it last Saturday and loved it. My boyfriend who is more of a Trekkie when it comes to the original series, was disappointed with parts of it, but he ended up liking it anyway. I've seen enough Star Trek to get the jokes, including what happened to the guy in the red spacesuit.
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I saw it recently... and it sucked. Badly. I can't even believe that Trekkies actually LOVE this! Pretty much every actor in the movie sucked, especially the guys playing Kirk and Spock. The plot is hole-ridden and inept (Nero, why didn't you just drop the red matter on Vulcan instead of using the drill?!), the characterizations are terrible (Kirk as an incompetent jerk?)... Everything about it just sucked.
Go to Hell, J.J. Abrams.
On the whole I was disappointed with it. Some of the acting was good - Bones, Nimoy and Young Spock, but the first 20 mins or so were absolutely dreadful. After that, the plot of hopping around the place seemed too easy, not really the fast pace directly as such, but that they pulled it off too easily.
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in all fairness to the franchise, the characters are/were already quite developed before this film. What was not supplied in the film was supplied with the viewers own memories of the familiar characters. If you think about it, the acting was always mediocre in the Original Series.
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I just saw this movie today, and I found it quite enjoyable.
The thing I liked most about it was Zachary Quinto's portrayal of Spock. On the posters, I first thought he didn't quite look the part, but on screen, he resembled Nimoy's Spock well both visually and in portraying his personality. I mean, Nimoy is Nimoy, but Quinto's delivery of young Spock's (well-written) dialogue was what I'd expect from the character. And even his conflict between the emotional and the logical, being a human/Vulcan hybrid, felt far more natural than the overly emotional and easily irritable Vulcans from 'Enterprise'.
Beside Quinto, I think the actors generally did a good job playing the roles of the original Trek crew, giving them their own voices and faces. I wasn't that sure about Pine as Kirk throughout the movie, and McCoy could have been better at times as well. I like John Cho a lot, but perhaps he lacked some of the swashbuckling charm Takei had in that role.
About what Roemer said about character development and a rushed structure... I think I can agree with that in regard to how the crew gets together... There is a 'Three years later' transition after Kirk, Uhura, and McCoy have made acquaintance, that is there to make us believe that in that time span, they get to know each other and become friends. But in a prequel to the original Star Trek, one would expect that that development is exactly a point that would be addressed carefully over the course of the film; not detracting from the storyline, mind you, but rather being interwoven with it. Scotty's inclusion felt very contrived to me.
I certainly enjoyed this film far more than I did 'Insurrection' and 'Nemesis', but watching it I remembered why Star Trek on the big screen had been leaving me with a slight sense of dissatisfaction, and that feeling is made all the more clear by the series 'voiceover mission statement' that also appears in this movie: the charm of Star Trek, to me, is in the sense of adventure and exploration... the series often feature episodes where phenomena or civilisations are being explored, and those are often the best episodes: though political structures involving races like the Vulcans, Klingons, Cardassians what have you, were often of equal greatness, it seems to me that whenever Trek hits the cinema, it's subject is political, involving a great foe that wants to overthrow the established authorities or subjugate worlds. This makes for a Star Trek story that goes through the motions and follows established paths... the famous bridge scenes that have now been done to death where you can anticipate the shouting of stock phrases like 'Fire torpedoes' 'Shields down to 40 percent!' 'Open hailing frequency!' It's also for this reason that I've always considered Star Trek to be at its best on the small screen, and Star Wars on the big, feature-length films.
If this movie is to have sequels, a world in which Vulcans have been reduced to mere thousands is a depressing notion, considering they're such prominent players in the Trek-verse. It was also a mean play (but delightfully mean) to kill off Spock's mother (or so it appears. Could she have escaped Vulcan's destruction?), because she has also appeared in TOS, which would lead the viewer to think 'Oh, Spock's mother won't die, she's safe.'
The bright red, yellow, and blue outfits with the old Starfleet logo were very cool, though I had a minor quibble with the shortness of the skirts for the female personnel... It looks a bit funny after it was established that pants were retconned in, in 'Enterprise', though that was arguably an 'alternate universe' itself.
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Yeah!! !! ! I did!! !! ! The guy in red that dies right after being introduced!! ! I guess in the original series there was a guy in red that died all the time (I didn't watch the original series). But I know from that movie "Galaxy Quest" which is a parody of Star Trek that there is a guy which the only job was to get killed in the series. So when they go to the alien planet he is afraid of getting killed.
Yeah!! !! ! I did!! !! ! The guy in red that dies right after being introduced!! ! I guess in the original series there was a guy in red that died all the time (I didn't watch the original series). But I know from that movie "Galaxy Quest" which is a parody of Star Trek that there is a guy which the only job was to get killed in the series. So when they go to the alien planet he is afraid of getting killed.
LOL, I love that character from Galaxy Quest... "What does it matter if we're doing Episode 81?" "BECAUSE I DIED IN EPISODE 81!! !" Great movie.
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