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Dione
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08 Feb 2011, 11:52 am

I own two cats; one is a Siamese and the other is an Oriental, which is a mix between a Siamese and another breed; in my case, ours is half Siamese half Maine Coon.
I adopted my cats because I thought they were beautiful and loved their dispositions as well as my husband has only grown up with Siamese. I recently learned that Siamese and Oriental cats are good for people with Autism and AS because they are intelligent animals that are more social than most cats and are not as hyper as dogs can be.
I have noticed that I can read my cats' facial expressions far better than a human's and get along with my cats better than most people. I will often also catch myself talking to my cats like I would another human.
Is there anyone else who owns Siamese or Oriental cats?



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08 Feb 2011, 12:07 pm

I don't at the moment but the Oriental is one of my favourite cat breeds, along with the Cornish Rex. Siamese is a great breed too. Yeah, they have really funny personalities and are really social. They're supposed to be very vocal as well. Whoever said cats are aloof and antisocial clearly has never met any Siamese or Orientals. :D



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08 Feb 2011, 12:22 pm

doeintheheadlights wrote:
I don't at the moment but the Oriental is one of my favourite cat breeds, along with the Cornish Rex. Siamese is a great breed too. Yeah, they have really funny personalities and are really social. They're supposed to be very vocal as well. Whoever said cats are aloof and antisocial clearly has never met any Siamese or Orientals. :D


Siamese are definitely vocal. My husband and I love that we never have to guess what they want because they just flat out tell us. The really scary thing is, they can imitate words really well. Our Siamese will sit outside our office door crying things that sound like mom, mommy, mother, dad, daddy, or father, depending on her desperation.



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08 Feb 2011, 12:36 pm

Growing up, I had two Tonkinese cats. Tonkinese is a mix of Siamese and Burmese, and they generally have the same personalities as Siamese. They were wonderful. My parents got them when I was 13. One died rather young, and the other one just died last year at 17 years of age, which was one of the most painful experiences I can remember for a very long time.

Siamese are famous for being exceptionally social, needy, and vocal. It does seem to be an excellent pet for someone with AS symptoms. I have recently gotten a new cat who is apparently half Siamese and half silver tabby. He is the single most energetic, friendly, affectionate cat I've ever seen in my life. I find myself somewhat obsessing over him in a very....well, aspie-like way. ;)



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08 Feb 2011, 4:32 pm

I love Siamese cats and would like to get one in the future. One of my friends has two Siamese, brothers actually, and I love getting to see them when I visit her. I have a cat of my own, just an average domestic short hair, who has the most personality of any cat I've ever had.


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08 Feb 2011, 7:16 pm

I have a Russian Blue. She's awesome. She opens cupboard doors by pulling on the handles. Talks in her sleep too.



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08 Feb 2011, 10:39 pm

stargazing wrote:
Siamese are famous for being exceptionally social, needy, and vocal. It does seem to be an excellent pet for someone with AS symptoms. I have recently gotten a new cat who is apparently half Siamese and half silver tabby. He is the single most energetic, friendly, affectionate cat I've ever seen in my life. I find myself somewhat obsessing over him in a very....well, aspie-like way. ;)


There is a very good reason my husband and I decided to get two cats instead of just one. My mother in-law once owned a Ragdoll/Siamese mix that was so needy she had to take naps with him until she got a kitten for him to fawn over.

I understand the obsessing over one's cats. I find myself doing it with my cats, too.



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09 Feb 2011, 12:16 pm

Dione wrote:
Siamese are definitely vocal. My husband and I love that we never have to guess what they want because they just flat out tell us. The really scary thing is, they can imitate words really well. Our Siamese will sit outside our office door crying things that sound like mom, mommy, mother, dad, daddy, or father, depending on her desperation.


Aw! I really really wanted my parents to get either Siamese or Oriental cats back when they were looking at different cat breeds. They said no, Siamese are nasty and antisocial. 8O I think it was Lady and the Tramp that did that. They ended up getting Turkish Angoras, which are a pretty friendly breed too, those cats are absolutely nuts and totally into everyone else's business, but I still like the Siamese and Orientals better. :D



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09 Feb 2011, 1:53 pm

doeintheheadlights wrote:
Aw! I really really wanted my parents to get either Siamese or Oriental cats back when they were looking at different cat breeds. They said no, Siamese are nasty and antisocial. 8O I think it was Lady and the Tramp that did that. They ended up getting Turkish Angoras, which are a pretty friendly breed too, those cats are absolutely nuts and totally into everyone else's business, but I still like the Siamese and Orientals better. :D


I think that Siamese cats got a bad rap from Lady and the Tramp, as well as a couple articles from when Siamese cats were first brought to the West from Thailand. These articles described Siamese cats as demons of cats.
Anyone who says that Siamese and Orientals are nasty or antisocial have never actually read up on or met a Siamese cat.



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09 Feb 2011, 2:44 pm

I've always loved Siamese cats, and Lady and the Tramp is probably where I first saw them! I used to run around singing that song from the movie all the time...I've had two siamese cats and both were lilac point. I recently had to rehome my Ophelia because we couldn't afford to take care of her (spayed, needled)...I was crushed because I love her so much, but she is happy in her new home and I've visited her there. I wish I could have her back though :cry: She was the sweetest cat I've had.
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10 Feb 2011, 1:29 am

An Oriental Shorthair is basically a Siamese "dipped in paint" so all kinds of colors, solid, stripes, etc, with that same super-triangular head and ears of a wedgehead Siamese, and yes their personalities, based on the one I have at least, are often quite outgoing and outspoken--you definitely know what they want! I also have a Cornish Rex; they have the softest curly fur, very intense personalities, usually quite playful and they gallop around in a very amusing way. To me, their faces look almost human with so little fur on it, and you can really see their expressions. These are both great cats to have and they do end up in rescue, though I have seen less of the "wedgehead" (triangular, pointy face) orientals and Siamese than the "applehead" rounder faces--there are quite a lot of Siamese and Siamese mixes in shelters and they really need homes, so this is a good time for anyone who is thinking about it to get one! :)


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10 Feb 2011, 11:40 am

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I've always loved Siamese cats, and Lady and the Tramp is probably where I first saw them! I used to run around singing that song from the movie all the time...I've had two siamese cats and both were lilac point. I recently had to rehome my Ophelia because we couldn't afford to take care of her (spayed, needled)...I was crushed because I love her so much, but she is happy in her new home and I've visited her there. I wish I could have her back though :cry: She was the sweetest cat I've had.
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My husband had a lilac point when he lived with his parents. Singha looks exactly like your Ophelia. The lilac points are tiny and loud. That was the only issue I had with Singha; she would get on the highest point near a doorway, and as soon as you walked through, she would yell as loud as she could right in your face.



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10 Feb 2011, 11:49 am

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An Oriental Shorthair is basically a Siamese "dipped in paint" so all kinds of colors, solid, stripes, etc, with that same super-triangular head and ears of a wedgehead Siamese, and yes their personalities, based on the one I have at least, are often quite outgoing and outspoken--you definitely know what they want! I also have a Cornish Rex; they have the softest curly fur, very intense personalities, usually quite playful and they gallop around in a very amusing way. To me, their faces look almost human with so little fur on it, and you can really see their expressions. These are both great cats to have and they do end up in rescue, though I have seen less of the "wedgehead" (triangular, pointy face) orientals and Siamese than the "applehead" rounder faces--there are quite a lot of Siamese and Siamese mixes in shelters and they really need homes, so this is a good time for anyone who is thinking about it to get one! :)


We got both of ours from shelters because I used to work at a shelter and saw wonderful cats of all shapes and sizes passed over for kittens and purebreds.
You are right that you see more of the old faced, or appleheaded, in shelters, but that's because the new faced, or wedgeheaded, are usually papered show animals, and people are more willing to give them away than to take them to a shelter.
Our siamese, Bagheera, was an old faced seal point Siamese that was found on the streets at around seven months old with a litter of kittens. The shelter speculated that she was abandoned after she had gotten pregnant, and was in the shelter for a month while her kittens were adopted rapidly.
Our Oriental, Angie, was a backyard breeder's cat who had three litters of kittens and attacked the would-be sire of a fourth litter, which is why she was given away. She was in the shelter for three months before we adopted her. We jokingly call her the AS kitty because she doesn't adhere to the kitty social standards. We have the sneaking suspicion she was an only cat because she hates dogs, and won't defer to older cats, but will instead try to assert dominance over the older animal, much to their chagrin.



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10 Feb 2011, 11:52 am

We owned a number of Siamese when I was a child...chocolate point (Hershey, Cheshire), seal point(Mischief), blue point(Missy and her three kittens), lilac point(???), and one that was some sort of orange-tabby point(Yin). They ranged from too intelligent to neurotic to completely loyal. My first classroom show-and-tell was what Missy did when she was in heat...being that she was Siamese, it was all the more dramatic. :oops:

We took in a stray Maine Coon once, too - absolutely the sweetest cat, if there were a short-hair breed they'd be perfect.


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10 Feb 2011, 12:10 pm

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We owned a number of Siamese when I was a child...chocolate point (Hershey, Cheshire), seal point(Mischief), blue point(Missy and her three kittens), lilac point(???), and one that was some sort of orange-tabby point(Yin). They ranged from too intelligent to neurotic to completely loyal. My first classroom show-and-tell was what Missy did when she was in heat...being that she was Siamese, it was all the more dramatic. :oops:

We took in a stray Maine Coon once, too - absolutely the sweetest cat, if there were a short-hair breed they'd be perfect.


A lilac point is basically a lighter version of a blue point. They are so called because their ears are lilac colored when you see the blood vessels in the right lighting.

The orange-tabby point you are referring to is called a flame point. As your statement suggests, it is the result of a Siamese being bred with an orange tabby. If you breed a flame point with any other color of Siamese, you get a tortie point, and some pretty cool patterns emerge from it.

That's why I like the Maine Coon/Siamese mix we have. Yes, her fur is super long, but she is one of the most affectionate cats I have ever dealt with. She's also not as big and only has a two layer coat instead of the three layer coat purebred Maine Coons have. The only problem is, we often have to bathe her because her tongue is not real rough, so she can't get through both layers when cleaning herself.



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13 Feb 2011, 2:43 am

My last cat, my bets friend ever, was Siamese. Ive told the stories of her on here enough, but she died 10 years ago and im only now getting round to getting another. On the short list are: Siamese, Burmese, Oriental, or a Bengal (after i saw a forum member on here with one!)


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