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08 Oct 2006, 6:23 pm

responding to half truths and misinterpretations is getting pretty tiring.

let me respond to the previous posts with:

huh?

what?



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09 Oct 2006, 12:07 am

Listening to the same statements except in different words is pretty tiring.



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09 Oct 2006, 1:55 am

Indeed, QuirkyCarla. Try this instead:

Aspoid, QuirkyCarla, Callaway and Freudianslip, are all Intensity² admins, or have some other mod equivalent position that gives them access to the appropriate management part of the board. Several of those names are pseudonyms, btw. As an example of how these people behave, I'll draw your attention to their repeated reference to my alleged romantic involvment with AntiHeather. They have isolated that as an achille's heel, and though it is only speculation as regards my private life (although it's not disputed she is a friend I correspond with by email), and irrelevant to the discussion, they continue using it. Furthermore, Callaway knows I have AS and have often posted on the difficulty of making friends, and maintaining relationships. Despite this, and knowing that I am friends with AntiHeather (aka omega), she tries with utmost spite to turn us against each other:

Callaway wrote:
I really don't know what you see in Ascan, Queen Omega. I would urge you to read this thread that Chain started if Ascan is really who you think you want:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.html?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9944&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc


As I've said, if you join Intensity² this type of behaviour is the norm. If you do go there, ensure you delete all personal information from other AS sites you've been to, or use a pseudonym and ensure your IP cannot identify you, as they have access to this information on many AS support sites.

I apologise if this thread has gone off track. But as someone with AS (diagnosed) I feel it is very important that people are aware of the threat posed by the organisation in question.



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09 Oct 2006, 2:55 am

It was not me who mentioned your romantic life in this thread, nor do I really care about it. Also, I was referring to YOU when I said that listening to the same statements except in different words was getting boring. Basically, you just keep asserting the same paranoid conspiracy theories. It's not intensity's fault that you couldn't back up your words and decided to delete all your posts. However, you've since held a grudge and set out to destroy the site through lies and manipulation.



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09 Oct 2006, 4:44 am

At this juncture, I would like to add a couple of points which our weaselly little friends have neglected to mention.

The first is that this whole argument about what a dangerous and evil place Intensity² is has been concocted and hysterically broadcast by two disgruntled individuals with personal grievances against the site. So they have no interest in telling you the plain, unbiased truth of the matter, rather soundbites and lurid fantasies based on twisting the facts and selective understanding of events to suit the Ascanian agenda. Those of you with long memories will no doubt already be laughing at his antics.

I see Hecate/Omega Female has joined him, though in his haste to point out the 'sockpuppets' other posters have used, he neglected to acknowledge that she is using one herself. Now Omega Female is not exactly an unbiased commentator in this either; her judgement is very much coloured by the fact that her friend was a target of 'bullying'/criticism, mainly because he kept jumping in to attack posters who criticised her, as in the 'Omega Shemale' photo incident. Naturally, harbouring such grievances and pettiness, she was a natural target for Ascan's negative worldview, and quickly forgot her allegiance to Intensity's principles.

In other words, this sorry excuse for an argument came from the man who gave you the Evil Ruling Aspie Power Elite theory, in which he claims that all us 'socially able' (read: friendly to other posters) aspies have been involved in a conspiracy to curry favour on all the aspie boards, disenfranchising embittered misanthropes like himself. Why don't you tell everybody here about the Aspie Elite, Ascan? As a concerned person with AS (diagnosed) I feel it is important that everyone is warned about the dangers to the AS community posed by this shadowy organisation.

That's my two cents. Have fun everyone! And don't forget to wipe your feet on the way out of this thread.


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09 Oct 2006, 5:15 am

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Why don't you tell everybody here about the Aspie Elite, Ascan?


You're doing a better job than I ever could, dunc. Didn't alex give you the boot from here for abusing your admin privileges? I can't remember, to be honest. The treatment AntiHeather and I are getting in this thread is only a taste of the spite and malice dished out to people who don't show "allegiance" as you so accurately put it .

Anyway, there is no doubt that generally speaking those who hold posts as admins and mods constitute the more socially-able. Indeed, an elite. I'm sure many people here, like myself, are not endowed with the powers of ingratiation that you and many of your buddies have and can relate to what I say. The fact that you are less encumbered with certain AS related problems and that that allows you to hold positions of responsibility means it is incumbent on you to act fairly and considerately to people less fortunate. You have failed in that respect at Intensity².

Btw, Inquisitor is the guy who runs Intensity²; it's certainly his style, or that of his partner.



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09 Oct 2006, 5:56 am

Au contraire Ascan, you are doing an excellent job of ruining what shoddy credibility you have by peddling this BS. I'm not going to tell you who I am (though your guessing games make you appear to be grasping at straws, since I shredded your hysterical position), but I can tell you that Duncvis walked away from a staff role at WrongPlanet in November last year, so you're way off base with that particular piece of conjecture. Because that is all you have to offer isn't it, Mr Negative? Conjecture, twisting and fairy stories. Give it up Ascan, small children are starting to laugh at you.

And the reason you won't tell us in your own words exactly what the Aspie Elite entails, is because it is a work of fiction, a conspiracy theory to make David Icke proud, isn't it? Please, go on. Tell the folks at home. Its hilarious. :lol:


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09 Oct 2006, 6:28 am

inquisitor wrote:
...your hysterical position

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...Mr Negative?

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...Its hilarious

Yes, we know mockery is one of the tools used by Intensity² to silence critics, but thanks for reinforcing the point, dunc.

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And the reason you won't tell us in your own words exactly what the Aspie Elite entails...

Really?

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Anyway, there is no doubt that generally speaking those who hold posts as admins and mods constitute the more socially-able. Indeed, an elite.

I'm surprised you've come here, to be honest, you must feel rather exposed not having access to the tools of the trade, as it were. :wink:



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09 Oct 2006, 6:34 am

More conjecture? And who would not mock such ridiculous assertions? If that's the best you can come up with, my work here is done. Self-ownage drips from you, Ascan. :lol:

Alas, not having your talent for dissembling, I must now run away to my evil Volcano Lair! Feel free to carry on making up your fairy stories without me. I think I've adequately made my point...


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09 Oct 2006, 6:38 am

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I think I've adequately made my point...


You have, and helped me very well in making mine.

Thanks for your time.



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09 Oct 2006, 6:44 am

ascan wrote:
inquisitor wrote:
...your hysterical position

inquisitor wrote:
...Mr Negative?

inquisitor wrote:
...Its hilarious

Yes, we know mockery is one of the tools used by Intensity² to silence critics, but thanks for reinforcing the point, dunc.

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And the reason you won't tell us in your own words exactly what the Aspie Elite entails...

Really?

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Anyway, there is no doubt that generally speaking those who hold posts as admins and mods constitute the more socially-able. Indeed, an elite.

I'm surprised you've come here, to be honest, you must feel rather exposed not having access to the tools of the trade, as it were. :wink:


no, no, no.

you have misrepresented the facts again.

honesty, and owning up to ones words are part of the tools used on intensity.

that is why you post everywhere but. since, you wouldn't recognise the truth, even if it bit you on the arse.



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09 Oct 2006, 8:08 am

Am I in the elite? No aspie site has ever been stupid enough to make me a mod.



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09 Oct 2006, 8:27 am

I was wondering what everybody thought about this guy's music video

http://gaypimp.com/mvideo.html

Oh let me know if this link should be removed.



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09 Oct 2006, 8:28 am

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Furthermore, Callaway knows I have AS and have often posted on the difficulty of making friends, and maintaining relationships.


In your case, add an 's' to the dx and you hit closer to home.



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09 Oct 2006, 12:19 pm

inquisitor wrote:
At this juncture, I would like to add a couple of points which our weaselly little friends have neglected to mention.

The first is that this whole argument about what a dangerous and evil place Intensity² is has been concocted and hysterically broadcast by two disgruntled individuals with personal grievances against the site. So they have no interest in telling you the plain, unbiased truth of the matter, rather soundbites and lurid fantasies based on twisting the facts and selective understanding of events to suit the Ascanian agenda.

I find this incredibly hypocritical, considering that all you've brought to this discussion is personal bias, irrelevant hearsay and attacks on mine and Ascan's characters.

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I see Hecate/Omega Female has joined him, though in his haste to point out the 'sockpuppets' other posters have used, he neglected to acknowledge that she is using one herself.

I was quite upfront about my identity in my first post; I even gave it the heading "Look what the (He)cat(e) dragged in" (my trademark self-depreciating sense of humour). If I'd had the option of using my 'Hecate' account, I would've done.

Now, are you going to reveal to us all who YOU are?

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Now Omega Female is not exactly an unbiased commentator in this either; her judgement is very much coloured by the fact that her friend was a target of 'bullying'/criticism, mainly because he kept jumping in to attack posters who criticised her, as in the 'Omega Shemale' photo incident. Naturally, harbouring such grievances and pettiness, she was a natural target for Ascan's negative worldview, and quickly forgot her allegiance to Intensity's principles.

If my judgement is "coloured" in any way, it would probably be by the fact that I have suffered at the hands of people like you and others on Intensity all my life; that is why I refuse to keep silent whilst other people with AS are being lured to Intensity and / or being harassed and humiliated by its members.

Anyway, since you seem to be so convinced that my criticism about Intensity is only the result of certain incidents, here are some links that'll show that your OPINION is based on little more than your conformity to the collective consciousness of Intensity (please note the dates of the posts):

Omega criticises the treatment of Fluorescent

Omega expresses concerns about the ethics of some of the behaviour on Intensity

The photo incident

It is one thing to be accused of having a "grievances" but it is quite another to be accused of having precognitive grievances. Another thing I will point out is that, although I have been friends with RobertN for quite some time, I have absolutely no relationship with Fluorescent. I stood a lot to lose but nothing to gain by defending Fluorescent, but I did it anyway because I wouldn't have been able to live with the guilt if I'd just stood by and said nothing.

And another thing I will add is that what I went through, emotionally / psychologically, after 'the photo incident' is beyond your comprehension. Like a lot of people with ASDs, I have a long history of depression, low self-esteem and self-harm. That incident worsened my depression, and it destroyed what little self-esteem I had managed to cultivate from attending several self-esteem classes that my GP and former therapist had prescribed for me; I also came very close to having a self-harm relapse too (it's been about six years since the last time that I self-harmed). Fortunately, I managed to get through the months following the incident without any serious permanent damage; however, I fear that there are a lot of individuals within this community who are a lot less resilient than myself. So, although it's very easy for you to say 'Intensity isn't dangerous; anyone who says so is delusional and hysterical etc,' you did not go through what I had to go through, and I hope you never do because I wouldn't wish that on anyone (except, perhaps, to the people who did it to me). In fact, I would say that 'the photo incident' gives even more credibility to my views about Intensity because I have experienced first-hand how damaging Intensity can be to people with AS-related problems, and I am going to take what ever action possible to prevent someone with similar difficulties as myself from suffering the same fate as I did.

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And the reason you won't tell us in your own words exactly what the Aspie Elite entails, is because it is a work of fiction, a conspiracy theory to make David Icke proud, isn't it?

What makes you think that the idea of an elite is a "conspiracy"? They exist in all parts of society. I don't think Ascan is suggesting that you all meet up and brain-storm over how to exert your dominance over the rest of the community; the fact is that some people are more socially-skilled than others, and that leads to cliques, in-crowds, elitism etc. But what people use their superior abilities for is at the heart of this entire discussion.

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Furthermore, Callaway knows I have AS and have often posted on the difficulty of making friends, and maintaining relationships.


In your case, add an 's' to the dx and you hit closer to home.

You do realise that you are giving more and more validity to mine and Ascan's argument everytime you post a childish insult, don't you?


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09 Oct 2006, 12:23 pm

All right, everyone, perhaps we should stop all this off-topic debate before it turns into a full blown arguement?


Okay, now, let's discuss this:

'Has WP been hostile to gays?'


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