CAPTCHA problem
Tiankay
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Here is another .HAR file. Triggered twice in a row, first on preview, submitted fine, then on posting again but posted fine after that.
http://www.file-upload.net/download-118 ... 4.zip.html
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Cloudflare wants me to get users with this problem to submit a HAR file.
To me, this is just another Schindler tactic, to remove ourselves from the equation and should be regarded as such.
You can't please everybody, or sprinkle the uneven minority with uneven taste buds, because that would alter the main ethos of this site, you can't cover up every hidden flaw.
Why can't more personal suggestions be accepted, and those in charge of a select committee, respect others and not just see them as a bind.
Only you can sever the chord that binds disaster to us. I'd rather the site get bugged from outsiders than have them decide the way for me.
What is the alternative? Switch the crying thing off and sever this chain link collapse or, find another domain host who offers a better solution or deal.
OK, here's my HAR file:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-118 ... -.har.html
What happened was, I did the Capcha, but on hitting "verify" I was taken back to the "post a reply" message box, where part of my message had been deleted. I re-pasted the lost text, hit "submit, did another Capcha, and exactly the same thing happened again.
Another point is that it's not just the bug(s) that's the problem with Capcha. The pictures it presents are simply too small and obscure to be reliably solved. I've got a screenshot of one where I'm supposed to check the pictures that contain eggs. One appears to be a frying pan containing various bits of food, including a blurred little blob that could conceivably be an egg, but it's by no means clear. I'm therefore wondering what is supposed to happen if a user gets a capcha puzzle wrong? I'd have thought it would simply say so, and the give the user another puzzle, but maybe it's designed to be more aggressive than that. Anyway, what I'm saying is that folks are still going to have big problems posting until somebody makes those picture puzzles solvable by normal people.
It doesn't work. I can click back and resubmit, but the post is gone and I have to retype the post, only do get another CAPTCHA request and lose it again.
With all due respect, you have no clue what you are doing. CAPTCHA has no business on an autism site. I have posted on many other forums, many much bigger then this site, where I have never gotten a CAPTCHA request in 10 years, and they have less SPAM problem then I have seen here.
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Exactly, although its what started all this captcha business to begin with that's got me disengaged all over again. Strange thing is, if you post from an android phone, the only stuff you get is log in to confirm your credentials, which of course I did, but the one thing it doesn't like, are brackets and http links to sites or YouTube.
Somebody's set up a poll about what should be done about Capcha:
viewtopic.php?t=305700
It'll be interesting to see how many folks vote to get rid of it.
Here's my screenshot of the Capcha puzzle I posted about before. The top right picture is the one that IMO is unfairly small - is there an egg there or not?
http://www.file-upload.net/download-118 ... s.bmp.html
In my experience, most of the puzzles are just as hopeless. My screen isn't particularly tiny and my eyesight is quite good.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.
What don't you understand? It makes no forum sense. You've interpreted the site as your own which is good going, but not all people can be like you and we're not going to be used as system bait.
You can either be intellectual and wise about it, or show some of your personal feelings to show that your human just like cloudfare is telling the rest of us. You're human too.
Can't you just delete all your intro threads and start again from scratch? I'm sure that people would email you if they didn't like a new setup but this, is all conjoined.
You have got forum people telling you what they think, and you're ignoring them as you've done for maybe years because you won't make the system fairer.
Cloudfare is quite simply a waste of time and money. I can see why you installed it, so that it could prevent people from being banned all the time and your hired mod team were frustrated, so you've aligned them to something that doesn't implicate them because they are immune from it. Why not insist they tell you how Cloudfare is working for them?
We're not all operational programmers but your own rules are defeating the object of running a site fairly.
The reason cloudfare is not working, is because it operates in co-ordinance with your forum rules which are alienating people from staying here and, with this false setup in place it will only make matters worse.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.
What don't you understand? It makes no forum sense. You've interpreted the site as your own which is good going, but not all people can be like you and we're not going to be used as system bait.
You can either be intellectual and wise about it, or show some of your personal feelings to show that your human just like cloudfare is telling the rest of us. You're human too.
Can't you just delete all your intro threads and start again from scratch? I'm sure that people would email you if they didn't like a new setup but this, is all conjoined.
You have got forum people telling you what they think, and you're ignoring them as you've done for maybe years because you won't make the system fairer.
Cloudfare is quite simply a waste of time and money. I can see why you installed it, so that it could prevent people from being banned all the time and your hired mod team were frustrated, so you've aligned them to something that doesn't implicate them because they are immune from it. Why not insist they tell you how Cloudfare is working for them?
We're not all operational programmers but your own rules are defeating the object of running a site fairly.
The reason cloudfare is not working, is because it operates in co-ordinance with your forum rules which are alienating people from staying here and, with this false setup in place it will only make matters worse.
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We've made some modifications and you should not be receiving CAPTCHAs now. Let me know if you're still receiving them. . .
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.
It is his.
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Oh dear, what a low response to the vibe we've all been getting from here. I know it is his site, and I was merely stating my suggestions on how to fully operate it.
Cloudfare is a freak nuisance and needs to be owned up to by the chairman responsible, whether it be him or the other cheap domain(cloudfare) host.
Someone needs to take on full adult responsibility of this site, like others said, some forums don't even use it.
I don't want to speak too soon, but so far it's looking like Captcha is gone, in my case at least. I just made a post with 3 quotes in it, which is the kind of thing I've not been allowed to do for a long time, and it went straight through Thanks for fixing it.
It looks like someone just did take on responsibility and fixed it.
I respect your anger, the Captcha thing has been a very annoying problem for many months and it's not surprising that we're sore about it. But personally I think it would be good to calm down and consider the very real possibility that Captcha has at last been removed. Thanks for getting me to send that PM to Alex, as it seems that was the action that started off the process of fixing it. I very nearly didn't bother, and wouldn't have bothered if you hadn't given me a push. Well done!
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We've made some modifications and you should not be receiving CAPTCHAs now. Let me know if you're still receiving them. . .
No, I'm not receiving them just now, I have a few new problems of my own to deal with.. but seeing as someone is back in the driving seat, it fills me with a new kind of hope.
I'm not sure when any final deadlines need to be reset again, but when there is a crucial decision to be made, try not to shut us out again.
Thanks, boss.
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We've made some modifications and you should not be receiving CAPTCHAs now.
I do know what it is BTW and y we have it, the giant complexity and size and ratio of this site for one thing, but even though there are still costs attached, why allow this burden to be transferred to us, as for any kind of anger issues, I am void of them, and those who make such threats upon threads should speak for themselves, I just think a wiser proportion of the current economic climate is bathed with respect for our opposition and that includes the majority here, but alas I give you my 6 week support and full admiration.
I completed the puzzle and it deleted the entire message. Luckily I was able to recover it with the back button, and after a couple more Capchas I was finally able to post it, but it took a while.
I had temporarily increased the security level due to spam attacks last night. It should be back to normal now.
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