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24 Aug 2020, 9:37 am

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Ah, thank you.


I also didn't see the relevance in bringing it up unless there is some hidden agenda , I treat everyone here the same unless they they piss me off and my grudges don't usually last long and I soon find grievances with other posters , maybe I am part of the problem with WP , Alex has 3 choices.


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24 Aug 2020, 9:43 am

I would like to publically thank Amity, the real catalyst behind this thread, for her relentless work. She managed to get her message through where the rest of us have failed.

Also, Ferris, IsabellaLinton, magz, Temeraire, Feyokien, AuroraBorealisGazer, wolfram87, Teach 51, and everybody else who used this thread for its intended purpose or at least tried to lighten things up :wink: Please keep engaging Alex, I think that after the high emotions calm down a bit, he'll hear you out.

It's the end of the road for me, in the last year this place has turned into an anti-autistic community and I don't want to be part of it. The slim, against all reason, hope I still had to see the effort people put in here succeeding has been shattered last night when one of the moderators who actively contributed to creating and maintaining the current culture used this very thread to once again accuse and insult the membership with impunity. I lost any faith that regardless of who will join the team will be capable or allowed to bring change.

So I'll end with another public thank you here to all of you, past or present members, for your insight, wisdom, compassion, resilience and last but not least the sense of humour that often kept this place alive by the skin of its teeth.


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24 Aug 2020, 9:43 am

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Dear Jakki: Thanks for your input. I think it's probably for the best if I remove it

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24 Aug 2020, 9:47 am

And the bleeding continues. Best of luck, BenderRodriguez. Sad to see you go.


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24 Aug 2020, 9:50 am

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Here is where people are really going to get upset. I don't know what actions Alex took against Sly and the actions may have been entirely wrong...but...Alex is correct in the way we white people use language, (he posted why,) thinking it is not a tribal problem (thank you, Pepe), when it is institutionalized. Institutionalized means, by definition, that we can't see it. We on WP don't need to understand why sly's post was extremely offensive, if we don't understand the new levels of understanding that are going on in America regarding race. The post was offensive to black people in America and in an ideal world, someone would explain to him why it was offensive.

No, institutionalised means it's part of that institution, and you can see it, otherwise how would you know it's there?

the "new levels of understanding" from America are setting the World back decades and should be rejected wholesale. We don't want to bring segregation back, we don't want to have racial quotas, we don't want to have suffocating political correctness, enforced with an iron fist. We don't want to have a progressive stack where people are told to shut the f**k up or pushed to the back of the queue because they're the wrong race / sex / sexual orientation. We should be looking to the MLK model. The goal should be you look at a white person and a black person and it's akin to this:

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You can see what colour they are, but it's not going to make one iota of difference in how you treat them. These cats probably have different personalities and over time you'd get to know them and that would influence how you treat them, but the colour would not. Race should be as unimportant as the colour of these cats.

Sly, it seems like a conclusion jump to think he's trying to equate the two things. I think he was trying to make a point, and shouldn't be castigated because his comparison was imperfect.



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24 Aug 2020, 9:50 am

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I would like to publically thank Amity, the real catalyst behind this thread, for her relentless work. She managed to get her message through where the rest of us have failed.

Also, Ferris, IsabellaLinton, magz, Temeraire, Feyokien, AuroraBorealisGazer, wolfram87, Teach 51, and everybody else who used this thread for its intended purpose or at least tried to lighten things up :wink: Please keep engaging Alex, I think that after the high emotions calm down a bit, he'll hear you out.

It's the end of the road for me, in the last year this place has turned into an anti-autistic community and I don't want to be part of it. The slim, against all reason, hope I still had to see the effort people put in here succeeding has been shattered last night when one of the moderators who actively contributed to creating and maintaining the current culture used this very thread to once again accuse and insult the membership with impunity. I lost any faith that regardless of who will join the team will be capable or allowed to bring change.

So I'll end with another public thank you here to all of you, past or present members, for your insight, wisdom, compassion, resilience and last but not least the sense of humour that often kept this place alive by the skin of its teeth.


Dude I feel you :heart:

I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind as I know exactly how you feel. I wish you all the best in pastures green.

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24 Aug 2020, 9:51 am

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I would like to publically thank Amity, the real catalyst behind this thread, for her relentless work. She managed to get her message through where the rest of us have failed.

Also, Ferris, IsabellaLinton, magz, Temeraire, Feyokien, AuroraBorealisGazer, wolfram87, Teach 51, and everybody else who used this thread for its intended purpose or at least tried to lighten things up :wink: Please keep engaging Alex, I think that after the high emotions calm down a bit, he'll hear you out.

It's the end of the road for me, in the last year this place has turned into an anti-autistic community and I don't want to be part of it. The slim, against all reason, hope I still had to see the effort people put in here succeeding has been shattered last night when one of the moderators who actively contributed to creating and maintaining the current culture used this very thread to once again accuse and insult the membership with impunity. I lost any faith that regardless of who will join the team will be capable or allowed to bring change.



So I'll end with another public thank you here to all of you, past or present members, for your insight, wisdom, compassion, resilience and last but not least the sense of humour that often kept this place alive by the skin of its teeth.


If we keep hemorrhaging good members only the bad ones will be left. Have often enjoyed your postings! Mr Bender


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24 Aug 2020, 9:52 am

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Well, most of us are that, so that would seem a strange distinction to make.

I was thinking neuroatypical but not autistic. Or maybe in addition to autistic.



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24 Aug 2020, 9:56 am

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And the bleeding continues. Best of luck, BenderRodriguez. Sad to see you go.

I'm here for support, as are probably most of the people who use this forum. But with a slight twist, as my wife and marriage counselor wanted me to find an online forum as a potential support system, as I speak to nobody in real life, and my wife and I have discussed splitting up on multiple occasions, but she won't leave me unless I have some sort of support system in place. I think you would have been a great piece of that system BR, and I'm sorry you'll be leaving WP, and that I never got to know you.



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24 Aug 2020, 10:04 am

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If we keep hemorrhaging good members only the bad ones will be left. Have often enjoyed your postings! Mr Bender


But you have to look at it from Alex and Walrus perspective , the racists and those exhibiting white supremacy are gone


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24 Aug 2020, 10:07 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:
I would like to publically thank Amity, the real catalyst behind this thread, for her relentless work. She managed to get her message through where the rest of us have failed.

Also, Ferris, IsabellaLinton, magz, Temeraire, Feyokien, AuroraBorealisGazer, wolfram87, Teach 51, and everybody else who used this thread for its intended purpose or at least tried to lighten things up :wink: Please keep engaging Alex, I think that after the high emotions calm down a bit, he'll hear you out.

It's the end of the road for me, in the last year this place has turned into an anti-autistic community and I don't want to be part of it. The slim, against all reason, hope I still had to see the effort people put in here succeeding has been shattered last night when one of the moderators who actively contributed to creating and maintaining the current culture used this very thread to once again accuse and insult the membership with impunity. I lost any faith that regardless of who will join the team will be capable or allowed to bring change.

So I'll end with another public thank you here to all of you, past or present members, for your insight, wisdom, compassion, resilience and last but not least the sense of humour that often kept this place alive by the skin of its teeth.


I hate seeing so many people leave who were trying to help the site, yet reached their limit through being continually ignored or abused.

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24 Aug 2020, 10:12 am

Bender's been here 8 years - I hope he will rethink and give WP another chance. This is a place of dialogue. Misunderstandings have occurred and several of us have made mistakes and/or errors of judgment. Even Alex makes mistakes - no one this side of Mount Olympus doesn't. We do try to observe the rules fairly without becoming overzealous, and rely on PMs to sort out many things behind the scenes. This is a time of change and transformation, hopefully for the better with the appointment of fresh extra mods who can see things from a different perspective, and lighten the load of just three active ones who sometimes get jaded. We value the members who make an effort to keep this place a great place to be.

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24 Aug 2020, 10:20 am

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blazingstar wrote:
Here is where people are really going to get upset. I don't know what actions Alex took against Sly and the actions may have been entirely wrong...but...Alex is correct in the way we white people use language, (he posted why,) thinking it is not a tribal problem (thank you, Pepe), when it is institutionalized. Institutionalized means, by definition, that we can't see it. We on WP don't need to understand why sly's post was extremely offensive, if we don't understand the new levels of understanding that are going on in America regarding race. The post was offensive to black people in America and in an ideal world, someone would explain to him why it was offensive.

No, institutionalised means it's part of that institution, and you can see it, otherwise how would you know it's there?

the "new levels of understanding" from America are setting the World back decades and should be rejected wholesale. We don't want to bring segregation back, we don't want to have racial quotas, we don't want to have suffocating political correctness, enforced with an iron fist. We don't want to have a progressive stack where people are told to shut the f**k up or pushed to the back of the queue because they're the wrong race / sex / sexual orientation. We should be looking to the MLK model. The goal should be you look at a white person and a black person and it's akin to this:

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You can see what colour they are, but it's not going to make one iota of difference in how you treat them. These cats probably have different personalities and over time you'd get to know them and that would influence how you treat them, but the colour would not. Race should be as unimportant as the colour of these cats.

Sly, it seems like a conclusion jump to think he's trying to equate the two things. I think he was trying to make a point, and shouldn't be castigated because his comparison was imperfect.




Lovely image! I don't follow specific political bandwagons either. I don't discriminate on the basis of race, religion, political persuasion, sexual orientation etc. Everyone should feel included here, and part of a family of autists, aspies and our friends/family who are NT. This is an opportunity to set things right. I am not taking sides except the one that is right - you can disagree but respectfully. When you get to know users as individuals, you begin understanding them so much better. PMs are a great way to do this. Public forums are the same as a big barbecue at the boss's house - can be pleasant, but you feel you've got to keep some decorum and it stresses you. But if you have a nice one on one conversation with someone you like, the party is more fun than that aimless hanging around we often exhibit in big groups.


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