Can NT's be geniuses?

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15 Jul 2009, 10:45 pm

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to be a genius, you have to be completely obsessed in your special interest, so, whilst being an aspie certainly helps, NT folk could logically do the same thing...an NT with OCD/a childhood experience which gives them passion in the area/a socially deprived existence, could become just as good a musician as me, for example ^.^


Well said. Being a bit obsessive is how I got a full ride through college.

Although in the case of Einstein, and possible others, having a completely different thought process probably helped too. Then again Einstein was a theoretical physicist.

But for the record, IQ tests are worthless for our kind. My friend (Aspergers) was labeled as "untrainable" after taking one as a child, a decade later he was working for NASA. Trying to categorize people with a standardized test is hard enough without trying to measure AS intelligence by way of the NT standards.


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13 Dec 2012, 2:17 pm

Why could not they be? :lol:


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13 Dec 2012, 3:01 pm

Tht's sure. I met NTs in my life that looked like geniouses a lot more than me.


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13 Dec 2012, 3:11 pm

Xanderbeanz wrote:
to be a genius, you have to be completely obsessed in your special interest


I do not agree with that statement. I do not think obsession is the requirement for genius. Rather, I think the requirement for genius is innate ability.



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13 Dec 2012, 4:12 pm

Plodder wrote:
Xanderbeanz wrote:
to be a genius, you have to be completely obsessed in your special interest


I do not agree with that statement. I do not think obsession is the requirement for genius. Rather, I think the requirement for genius is innate ability.


A genious needs constancy and willpower, that are completely different from obsessions. Also, they need innate ability, that's sure.


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07 May 2013, 2:34 am

Of course. Why wouldn't they?


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19 Jun 2013, 8:59 am

There is no such thing as a 'genius gene'.



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05 Jul 2013, 9:57 pm

i guess so with practice
but imo, aspies are more likely to be geniuses. no offence, its out obsessions.



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10 Jul 2013, 6:33 am

I am a diagnosed Aspie but I am not a genius, and have never been.


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13 May 2019, 10:48 pm

:evil:

Venn diagram

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NTs come in a wide range of intelligence

Including genius

Just like autistics come in a wide range of intelligence

Including genius

There are seven billion people in the world


At least two neurotypicals are genius

Mensa definition

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16 May 2019, 2:22 pm

I define genius by the critically successful application of intelligence in the external world. It's a social definition because it implies that these applications are influential and adopted by society or change the world in some fashion.

Someone might technically have an IQ of 160 and be capable of vast and complex logical reasoning, but if this person never translates that ability into action, then I would never call them a genius. I would say they have a highly superior intelligence.

I like this kind of distinction because it encourages brilliant people to exercise and improve executive functioning skills so as to contribute to society.

Being brilliant in your room and dying with no influence isn't worth a lot.


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18 May 2019, 12:14 pm

Yes, but geniuses with social skills.



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18 May 2019, 12:15 pm

Kairi96 wrote:
Plodder wrote:
Xanderbeanz wrote:
to be a genius, you have to be completely obsessed in your special interest


I do not agree with that statement. I do not think obsession is the requirement for genius. Rather, I think the requirement for genius is innate ability.


A genious needs constancy and willpower, that are completely different from obsessions. Also, they need innate ability, that's sure.


For sure.